3rd Cycle - opinion/thoughts

[Handy Andy]

I have done a cycle of Test E, then a cycle of Sus & EQ and did well with both great results with the latter cycle. Now I am onto a cycle of tren, Test e & masteron
Weeks 1-12
Test E
(250mg/ml) 1 ml 2x a week (active life 8 days) 500 total/wk

Tren
(150mg/ml blend of 50 mg @ Acetate, Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate, Enanthate)
1 ml 2x a week (active life up to 8 days) 300 total/wk (may move to 450 mid cycle)

Mast
(100mg/ml) 1 ml 3x week (active life 3 days) 300 total/wk

Weeks 13-16
Same as above but dropping the Tren.


53 y/o here...very athletic - I lift, play tournament racquetball, cardio 6'3 195 avg weight and cut defined body style. I look to add a little muscle mass (difficult at my age) but I try to add as much as possible I generally weigh around 200-205 on cycle and 191-193 off. I do watch my macros also. I train with a younger guy who is 24 same body style but he is shorter and weighs in at 150 but very defined body.


Anyone have any thoughts or opinions?

 

[Wiltedrose]

I'm not very familiar with the Tren blend you're using, but I've personally never been a fan of short and long ester blends in general.

I see that you used longer esters throughout, is it because of the injection frequency?

If injection frequency wasn't an issue for you, I'd swap the Test E for Test P nearing the end of your cycle. By doing this, you'll reduce your off time until PCT starts.

Speaking of which, you haven't mentioned your PCT and on cycle AI, just wondering if you simply didn't mention them, or haven't though of them all together.

I'm also curious if you have gotten your pre-cycle blood work, curious to how your test level/recovery is at your age after previous cycles.

All in all, tren, mast, and test are a great combo IME. You've also done a great job staying this active at your age, bravo!

Cheers.

 

[Handy Andy]

This tren actually has a higher rating from the place I get than straight Tren E or A and obviously combines the two.

I do not mind the injection frequency I guess I have always stuck with longer esters

Use Exemestane and PCT simply nolva - usually have my blood work done toward the end of the PCT and range was around 400, always had good sex drive on cycle, this last cycle a little genital atrophy.

Most people in the gym mistake me for early 40s...LMAO one person checked it at 30's

Thanks

 

[Wiltedrose]

This tren actually has a higher rating from the place I get than straight Tren E or A and obviously combines the two.

I do not mind the injection frequency I guess I have always stuck with longer esters

Use Exemestane and PCT simply nolva - usually have my blood work done toward the end of the PCT and range was around 400, always had good sex drive on cycle, this last cycle a little genital atrophy.

Most people in the gym mistake me for early 40s...LMAO one person checked it at 30's

Thanks

Haha, great to hear!

 

[Flaming Dragon]

Your cycle looks good, I too don't have any experience with the Tren blends you're talking about. Now, what do you mean higher rating comparing to reg Tren A or E?

After 40+ it's pretty hard to stay toe to toe with em young bucks. But, at least you're out there and doing it! Good luck

 

[Flaming Dragon]

At our age, I highly recommend you get a mid-cycle blood work. You never know what might creep up.. just my opinion

 

[achilles87]

The tren blend almost sounds pointless to me, hex has such a long half life and ace has such a short one you do ace eod some do ed. You are better off just sticking with one or the other, I don't really like blends tho... Just my opinion. With you life style tren is also going to slow you down with cardio and running and what not. Not trying to talk you out of tren because I love it lol, I just don't see a point in having that blend and it's hard on you as far as endurance.

 

[HuckingFuge]

protein is how you get more muscle, so you need to eat more protein. AAS just puts your body into a perfect state to grow.

 

[Handy Andy]

Wiltedrose you mentioned you are not aware of the blend. Here is more information

The acetate ester allows Tri-Trenabol to display a rapid elevation of blood plasma levels of Trenbolone. The other two esters (Hexahydryobenzyclcarbonate and Enanthate), which release at differing but slower rates, prolong the blood plasma levels of trenbolone.

achilles87, thanks aware of that and yes a concern to watch out for. Hence, why I am using a lower dosage than most people use and keeping E higher!

Thanks

 

[achilles87]

That's a good idea but for someone that has never ran tren I advise you not to exceed 300mgs. I have ran tren many times and it always no matter the mg makes my endurance go down, it's just part of it. The more you do the more sides you get, and the higher test is not necessarily a fact either. I run my tren higher than or the same as my test for the best results for me. As you know everyone will react to aas different than the other, just remember with longer esters if you can't handle the sides or don't like them it's going to take longer to get out of your system. That is why I always suggest running ace for the first time tren user, again that's just my opinion.

 

[Handy Andy]

Thanks Achilles, that is why after much research I went with the blend...hedging on controlling the sides as I try it for the first time. My racquetball game excels during a cycle so hoping for the same without too much loss of endurance. I will be paying close attention though

 

[achilles87]

Also gw 501516 helped me with endurance, I used it on a cycle one time and it helped with other tren sides as well.

 

[Handy Andy]

gw 501516???

 

[achilles87]

Cardarine, it's a sarm. There's a lot of them out that are junk but I did notice a change in endurance and bp. I don't want to sound like I'm pushing anything lol but it did help, it would be worth researching.

 

[Handy Andy]

Oh yea I use Ostarine XT (SARM) off cycle though and I still get good transient pumps in the gym...it has helped a lot between cycles and also assist natural T production

 

[achilles87]

Gw would be worth looking at in my opinion man, My only issue with sarms are the fakes out... Just like fake aas. I know what I used worked but who's to say today I could get it and get the same results. If you know of a good source for it try it out, tren makes me feel like I have the endurance of a 90 year old fat man lol. This last cycle I went to the beach and thought I was going to kill over just walking from our room to the water and the hotel was right on the beach hahahaha. I was only taking 400mg's a week at the time.

 

[Handy Andy]

I have seen where people have stacked Tren, Test and Masteron or EQ. I have used EQ with Sus and drove my appetite wild...is Masteron similar? What are opinions of Masteron vs EQ in this stack>

 

[achilles87]

Mast would be a good stack for you or really eq would as well, you will get more endurance from eq. Mast is something people run with lower bf to cut up but some will say tren is good enough alone. The only thing with eq you have to run it for a long time before it starts kicking in. I would go with mast probably if I were you.

 

[Handy Andy]

any thoughts or opposition to mixing the 3 in one barrel for pinning?

 

[achilles87]

any thoughts or opposition to mixing the 3 in one barrel for pinning?

I mix mine, all is good.