4 weeks in cycle, bloods

[Mr Evil]

Blood done 50 hours after shot, 500 of susta, 375 of deca. Cycle consists in 1000 susta a week, 750 of deca week, 50 mg dbol 2 weeks and 100 mg dbol 2 weeks, this blood work was done one month into cycle, im taking 1 mg of arimidex every 3 days and 2.5 mg of caber twice a week, since first day of dbol feeling lethargic, out of breath after a set ,no energy at gym no matter what, im done w dbol tho, i suspect caber is bunk but not sure since i got clem from same lab and its good. Any recomendations on adjustments i should be doing are welcome. Blood pressure its been above expected for about 2 weeks, i expect on cycle around 130s/90s and its been creeping up above that.

 

[Docd187123]

There's not enough info really in the bloods bc the test levels are capped and estrogen shows total estrogens not estradiol.

 

[Mr Evil]

There's not enough info really in the bloods bc the test levels are capped and estrogen shows total estrogens not estradiol.

how about the rest of the results that show high? Liver kidney values

 

[XmadXscientist]

lol doc said you need uncapped test and estradiol. Your other values are ok for now, I'm more interested what they'll look like later with almost 2 grams of gear being run.

 

[Mr Evil]

lol doc said you need uncapped test and estradiol. Your other values are ok for now, I'm more interested what they'll look like later with almost 2 grams of gear being run.

So am i, although im done w the oral steroid, im even more interested in running this smount of gear and staying healthy

 

[Docd187123]

how about the rest of the results that show high? Liver kidney values

Everything else looks fine.

 

[Dr JIM]

running this smount of gear and staying healthy

LMFAO, if "your health" was a primary consideration you would have never embarked upon such foolishness!

I see a few BB on the pro circuit and next to NONE of them exceed 1gm a week of all AAS combined.

The side effects of such high dosages limit high intensity work outs in many, if not most, folk IME.

Fact is your complaints and BP elevation are classic examples of what I'm referring to as intolerable adverse effects.

 

[Dr JIM]

Blood done 50 hours after shot, 500 of susta, 375 of deca. Cycle consists in 1000 susta a week, 750 of deca week, 50 mg dbol 2 weeks and 100 mg dbol 2 weeks, this blood work was done one month into cycle, im taking 1 mg of arimidex every 3 days and 2.5 mg of caber twice a week, since first day of dbol feeling lethargic, out of breath after a set ,no energy at gym no matter what, im done w dbol tho,

i
suspect caber is bunk

but not sure since i got clem from same lab and its good. Any recomendations on adjustments i should be doing are welcome. Blood pressure its been above expected for about 2 weeks, i expect on cycle around 130s/90s and its been creeping up above that.

, if "your health" was a primary consideration you would have never embarked upon such foolishness!

I see a few BB on the pro circuit and next to NONE of them exceed 1gm a week of all AAS combined.

The side effects of such high dosages limit high intensity work outs in many, if not most, folk IME.

Fact is your complaints and BP elevation are classic examples of what I'm referring to as intolerable adverse effects.[/QUOTE]

 

[Dr JIM]

I suspect caber is bunk

.

On second thought yea the problems gotta be that "bunk Gaber" has failed to control your Prolactin.

OMG did you ever think ? ------ perhaps it would be a good idea to spend at least as much time reading about th you should spend some time reading and learning how to differentiate PED board fact, fiction and fantasy.

Just like the bro-science notion "more is better" is fantasy, the
belief "Gaber is needed for 19Nor cycles" is bro-science fiction.

 

[Mr Evil]

, if "your health" was a primary consideration you would have never embarked upon such foolishness!

I see a few BB on the pro circuit and next to NONE of them exceed 1gm a week of all AAS combined.

The side effects of such high dosages limit high intensity work outs in many, if not most, folk IME.

Fact is your complaints and BP elevation are classic examples of what I'm referring to as intolerable adverse effects.

[/QUOTE]
Thank you for taking the time to pitch in, even tho ur posts have sarcastic tone on it still have some info, I've never said the caber was the reason for the way i was feeling, but w the litlle knowledge i have i would think it would keep prolactin under control, i ve been checking my bp everyday for over a year now and average is 120s/80s, some times reaching 130/90 off gear, my normal prolactin off gear is in the normal range but edging the high end of it, i havent taken oral since last friday and today i feel great, not tired at all, u have my blood results above if u can comment on it it would be great, if not thank you anyways, im here to learn.

 

[Dr JIM]

U have my blood results above if u can comment on it
.[/QUOTE]

Seriously what is there to comment about since all are within the labs reference ranges, except those variances one should expect when running AAS.

And why do you think Prolactin needs to be "controlled" in this circumstance?

 

[Mr Evil]

U have my blood results above if u can comment on it
.

Seriously what is there to comment about since all are within the labs reference ranges, except those variances one should expect when running AAS.

And why do you think Prolactin needs to be "controlled" in this circumstance?[/QUOTE]
Doesnt the body see deca as progesterone? Doesnt progesterone raises prolactin?

 

[Mr Evil]

Shouldn't i base myself on blood results? If blood results are ok than should i change anything?

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh if it was only THAT easy but NONE of these tests reflect cardiopulmonary reserve or functioning especially during EXERCISE!


And since such high dosages of AAS can significantly increase extra-cellular fluid volume, a pulse oximetry during exercise may be helpful.

 

[Mr Evil]

Oh if was only THAT easy but NONE of these tests reflect cardiopulmonary reserve or functioning especially during EXERCISE!


And since such high dosages of AAS can significantly increase
blood volume, a pulse oximetry during exercise may be helpful.

I understant, would donate blood help any w the excess of blood?

 

[Mr Evil]

Oh if it was only THAT easy but NONE of these tests reflect cardiopulmonary reserve or functioning especially during EXERCISE!


And since such high dosages of AAS can significantly increase extra-cellular fluid volume, a pulse oximetry during exercise may be helpful.

I dont know if its a indicator of anything but after i stopped the dbol i feel completely different from how i was feeling on oral steroid, strenght went thru the roof, no short of breath after a set.

 

[Mr Evil]

U have my blood results above if u can comment on it
.

Seriously what is there to comment about since all are within the labs reference ranges, except those variances one should expect when running AAS.

And why do you think Prolactin needs to be "controlled" in this circumstance?[/QUOTE]
Doesnt the body sees deca as a progesterone ? Doesn't progesterone increases prolactin?

 

[Dr JIM]

?[/QUOTE]
Doesnt the body sees deca as a progesterone ? Doesn't progesterone increases prolactin?[/QUOTE]

I'd suggest you check your source on that bro-science extrapolation.

 

[Mr Evil]

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Doesnt the body sees deca as a progesterone ? Doesn't progesterone increases prolactin?[/QUOTE]

I'd suggest you check your source on that bro-science extrapolation.[/QUOTE]
Ive read that a lot all over the internet, but to be honest im more interested to hear what you have to say about it

 

[Mr Evil]

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Doesnt the body sees deca as a progesterone ? Doesn't progesterone increases prolactin?[/QUOTE]

I'd suggest you check your source on that bro-science extrapolation.[/QUOTE]
Or at least point me in the right direction where i can educate myself properly about it