A “problem”

[ganciodestro]

Good morning guys, I wanted to talk to you about this strange issue I’m having… I only use testosterone propionate and Gonasi. When I use testosterone propionate with the right timing — 20mg every day instead of 40 or 50mg every other day — my libido is very low. But if I use 100mg all at once every 5 days, starting from the second day after the injection, I feel a strong increase in libido. I’m using 500 IU of Gonasi every other day.

My only goal, besides maintaining my physical shape (which is fine despite these issues), is to have an optimal and especially stable libido. When I use esters like enanthate or cypionate, my libido seems to completely disappear. Do you have any advice, suggestions, or personal experiences to share?

 

[youwhat?]

Start with bloodwork

 

[BamaCrazy]

I agree with above. Get complete labs. But I do have a clarifying question. When you take TP all at once does the increase in libido remain until the next injection? You said you inject every 5 days and the increase in libido starts the second day. So does that last for 3 days until the next injection?

Test P should be injected EOD at a minimum. I am curious where that puts your bloodwork. Maybe you need to increase your dose. Maybe you need to switch to a longer ester. Who knows without labs. Be sure to get total T (uncapped), free T, E2 sensitive, SHBG, and maybe prolactin at a minimum.

 

[ganciodestro]

Yes I feel more libido in second and fifth days.. maybe is for gonasi i dont know.. yes surely i need blood work but now is a very difficult time with money.. i will do..

Another question.. When you can start feel libido with long ester like ena or cypio? I would not want use more then 150 mg weekly

 

[BamaCrazy]

Yes I feel more libido in second and fifth days.. maybe is for gonasi i dont know.. yes surely i need blood work but now is a very difficult time with money.. i will do..

Another question.. When you can start feel libido with long ester like ena or cypio? I would not want use more then 150 mg weekly

I personally do not get libido increases from exogenous testosterone. HCG is known to help libido though. Maybe for you it’s a combination of the two (test p and HCG) and timing that’s impacting libido. HCG is also known to reduce libido at certain doses.

For labs when mention money. Have you looked into discountedlabs, Fitomics or one of the other discount lab services? You could benefit from knowing your hormone levels.

 

[ganciodestro]

I personally do not get libido increases from exogenous testosterone. HCG is known to help libido though. Maybe for you it’s a combination of the two (test p and HCG) and timing that’s impacting libido. HCG is also known to reduce libido at certain doses.

For labs when mention money. Have you looked into discountedlabs, Fitomics or one of the other discount lab services? You could benefit from knowing your hormone levels.

Really you dont notice increase of libido when you are natural or with 250 testo week?

I always know that hcg increase libido more then testo, never heard about hcg can reduce libido

 

[BamaCrazy]

Really you dont notice increase of libido when you are natural or with 250 testo week?

I always know that hcg increase libido more then testo, never heard about hcg can reduce libido

My natural total T was between 700-900. It’s of course much higher now on exogenous testosterone but my libido didn’t change much. Mast increased my libido. Primo decreased my libido.

Different doses of HCG have increased and decreased my libido. 250iu 3 times a week increased it. 500iu 3x a week decreased it. Sometimes there is a window of time when I stop HCG when my libido really gets high but wears off after 2-3 weeks.

 

[ganciodestro]

My natural total T was between 700-900. It’s of course much higher now on exogenous testosterone but my libido didn’t change much. Mast increased my libido. Primo decreased my libido.

Different doses of HCG have increased and decreased my libido. 250iu 3 times a week increased it. 500iu 3x a week decreased it. Sometimes there is a window of time when I stop HCG when my libido really gets high but wears off after 2-3 weeks.

You meant that you have to stop hcg Because your high libido causes you problems? Dosage is 250 3xweek?

maybe i should try lowering my hcg dose and see how it goes.. i've always done 500 every other day, i'll try and then i'll let you know.. i'm thinking of changing ester and using enanthate or cypionate.. i'm just afraid that my libido will drop.. i'm looking for a dosage that will keep my libido always high using only testo and hcg

 

[BamaCrazy]

You meant that you have to stop hcg Because your high libido causes you problems? Dosage is 250 3xweek?

maybe i should try lowering my hcg dose and see how it goes.. i've always done 500 every other day, i'll try and then i'll let you know.. i'm thinking of changing ester and using enanthate or cypionate.. i'm just afraid that my libido will drop.. i'm looking for a dosage that will keep my libido always high using only testo and hcg

My purpose for using HCG was because Primo crashed my E2. So I started at 250iu 3 times a week and my E2 didn’t move much. But my libido was great. So I increased to 500iu 3x a week and while my E2 improved some my libido tanked. So I dropped HCG.

If you go with a longer ester go with Cypionate. Not because it will help your libido. Test E has recently caused pip in enough people that I’d avoid it.

 

[ganciodestro]

You think that 75mg cypio 2xweek can be compared to 100 mg of propionate injected every 5 days?

 

[BamaCrazy]

You think that 75mg cypio 2xweek can be compared to 100 mg of propionate injected every 5 days?

Maybe someone who has done this switch can comment. But one thing you should be aware of is Cyp takes a few weeks to build up your serum levels. 100mg Prop taken every 5 days peaks higher and faster than 150mg Cyp, but Prop dips very low in between injections.

100mg Prop a week taken every 5 days


150mg Cyp a week taken every 3.5 days


Personally I’d front load Cyp the first 1-2 weeks to get my serum levels up faster. Play with this tool. It’s only an estimate as each of our bodies are different, but it might help you strategize a switch.

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[Slowww]

I don’t feel a difference with prop or cyp. When i take hcg even if it is a small amount this will make a difference however. Tren and hcg both increase libido for me. On a blood assay I have had testosterone as low as 200ng/mL after missing a dose of propionate, but there were no libido issues either.