Adding New PEDs to the Mix

[Fungui]

I am hoping someone can give me some feedback on my planned cycle. I’d like to branch out and add some new fun to the mix.

I'm bulking, and my cycle history is primarily standard 500 test e with a couple cycles including anadrol/winny thrown in. Roughly 5-6 cycles in total. I am on TRT, so I blast and cruise at 200mg. I am going to start HGH soon at 2iu, building towards 3-4 (likely split).

Weeks 1-4:
NPP 300
Deca 400
Test E 350
Var 50

Weeks 4-6
Deca 400
Test E 350
Var 50

Week 6-16
Deca 400
Test E 350

I'm thinking about throwing in Mast at some point but am not sure when or if it would be beneficial.

 

[TheIncomparableMrHarrow]

Personally I would start mast with the test early on and leave var for the back end of the run. NPP hits fast so not sure as to why you would kickstart with var. I believe an oral is better on the back end when things start to stall or you can shorten the overall oral phase of the cycle and run it like “bookends”.
Personally I would run test, mast, nandrolone together for the 12-16 weeks and then add the oral in at week 12 till the end.

 

[Fungui]

Personally I would start mast with the test early on and leave var for the back end of the run. NPP hits fast so not sure as to why you would kickstart with var. I believe an oral is better on the back end when things start to stall or you can shorten the overall oral phase of the cycle and run it like “bookends”.
Personally I would run test, mast, nandrolone together for the 12-16 weeks and then add the oral in at week 12 till the end.

Thanks brother;

Starting with NPP and VAR was something I saw @Wunderpus mention in another thread. Your bookend comment makes sense though.

 

[Fungui]

Personally I would start mast with the test early on and leave var for the back end of the run. NPP hits fast so not sure as to why you would kickstart with var. I believe an oral is better on the back end when things start to stall or you can shorten the overall oral phase of the cycle and run it like “bookends”.
Personally I would run test, mast, nandrolone together for the 12-16 weeks and then add the oral in at week 12 till the end.

How much Mast would you run, and do the other figures look ok?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Personally I would start mast with the test early on and leave var for the back end of the run. NPP hits fast so not sure as to why you would kickstart with var. I believe an oral is better on the back end when things start to stall or you can shorten the overall oral phase of the cycle and run it like “bookends”.
Personally I would run test, mast, nandrolone together for the 12-16 weeks and then add the oral in at week 12 till the end.

One of my all time favorite stacks
Great dry mass gains

I just finished the same stack 1 month ago, felt amazing and made solid gains

350 Test Cyp
300 Deca.
400 Mast.
40mg Var Split AM/PM



Ran the Mast for an extra 2 weeks after last deca pin, just to stay dry.

Loved every minute of that run

 

[Fungui]

This is my adjusted plan:

Weeks 1-4:
NPP 300
Deca 400
Test E 350
Mast P 300

Weeks 4-10
Deca 400
Test E 350
Mast P 300

Week 10-16
Deca 400
Test E 350
Mast 300
Var 50

NPP gets me up to speed and the Var brings be home.

 

[Jet Labs]

I am hoping someone can give me some feedback on my planned cycle. I’d like to branch out and add some new fun to the mix.

I'm bulking, and my cycle history is primarily standard 500 test e with a couple cycles including anadrol/winny thrown in. Roughly 5-6 cycles in total. I am on TRT, so I blast and cruise at 200mg. I am going to start HGH soon at 2iu, building towards 3-4 (likely split).

Weeks 1-4:
NPP 300
Deca 400
Test E 350
Var 50

Weeks 4-6
Deca 400
Test E 350
Var 50

Week 6-16
Deca 400
Test E 350

I'm thinking about throwing in Mast at some point but am not sure when or if it would be beneficial.

I'd go test/npp/mast AND var the whole cycle, but keep doses low and focus on proper diet and training.

 

[TheIncomparableMrHarrow]

How much Mast would you run, and do the other figures look ok?

Ultimately that decision is entirely up to you. Some people have ran test and deca as a one to one ratio. Others have stated that test and deca have to be ran as a 2:1 ratio.
Right now I am in my last week of a test cyp, mast e, and deca run. I am currently running it as the following:
Test: 450mgs
Mast: 420mgs
Deca: 375mgs
6 week finisher with 50mgs of tbol

I am and have been making strength and size gains but they are coming with a bit of sexual sides. Some members believe it is because it is not a 2:1 ratio. I have one week left so I am not going to change anything right now and ride it out.
The point I am trying to make is that the dosages are completely up to the user. You have to find out what works for you. You, essentially, are your own science experiment. Good luck with whatever you decide to do and enjoy.

 

[Jet Labs]

Ultimately that decision is entirely up to you. Some people have ran test and deca as a one to one ratio. Others have stated that test and deca have to be ran as a 2:1 ratio.
Right now I am in my last week of a test cyp, mast e, and deca run. I am currently running it as the following:
Test: 450mgs
Mast: 420mgs
Deca: 375mgs
6 week finisher with 50mgs of tbol

I am and have been making strength and size gains but they are coming with a bit of sexual sides. Some members believe it is because it is not a 2:1 ratio. I have one week left so I am not going to change anything right now and ride it out.
The point I am trying to make is that the dosages are completely up to the user. You have to find out what works for you. You, essentially, are your own science experiment. Good luck with whatever you decide to do and enjoy.

Opt for npp next time and most likely you will avoid deca dick.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

I'd go test/npp/mast AND var the whole cycle, but keep doses low and focus on proper diet and training.

This would be quite individual
I start to feel like shit on week 5 of orals.

I wish I could run them longer, but 4 weeks is my.max, even with Var.

Opt for npp next time and most likely you will avoid deca dick.

Extremely individual
Love Deca, never had Deca dick at any ratio.
I'm also lazy and like the 300mg concentration. lol.
Comes down to estrogen control therefore keeping progesterone/prolactin low and not creating an estrogen rich environment for the above mentioned hormones to flourish.

Just as some aromatise at differing rates, some will experience Deca dick at different hormonal volumes, comes down to an individual limitations and experience with said compounds.

Attaching a different ester chain doesnt change the compound itself, just its stability snd release times.

 

[EazyE]

This would be quite individual
I start to feel like shit on week 5 of orals.

I wish I could run them longer, but 4 weeks is my.max, even with Var.



Extremely individual
Love Deca, never had Deca dick at any ratio.
I'm also lazy and like the 300mg concentration. lol.
Comes down to estrogen control therefore keeping progesterone/prolactin low and not creating an estrogen rich environment for the above mentioned hormones to flourish.

Just as some aromatise at differing rates, some will experience Deca dick at different hormonal volumes, comes down to an individual limitations and experience with said compounds.

Attaching a different ester chain doesnt change the compound itself, just its stability snd release times.

And having Mast in the cycle does wonders. No deca dick, great sex drive, dry muscles, just good overall feeling with this compound. Makes any cycle better. Not the main driver of a cycle but very valuable add on.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

And having Mast in the cycle does wonders. No deca dick, great sex drive, dry muscles, just good overall feeling with this compound. Makes any cycle better. Not the main driver of a cycle but very valuable add on.

100%
I never had issues with Nandrone before.
But adding mast is just such a nice boost to the cycle, gone are the days of deca bloat
Staying dry while making the same deca gains is such a game changer for me.
No more water buffalo Lemon lol

 

[EazyE]

100%
I never had issues with Nandrone before.
But adding mast is just such a nice boost to the cycle, gone are the days of deca bloat
Staying dry while making the same deca gains is such a game changer for me.
No more water buffalo Lemon lol

Yeah agreed. I never run Nandrolones without Mast. Never have any issues. Overall Mast is my favourite compound. It makes everything else work better. If I could only ever run limited cycles, then it would be Test/Mast. Hands down the best cycle!

 

[Fungui]

I really appreciate the feedback fellas, I'm primed to start this up in about a month. I will update the log as I go. I am going to start with the numbers above and adjust test as needed. I also have cialis/viagra on hand just in case.

 

[liteboost]

My 2cents: Don't run Deca and NPP at the same time and certainly not as high dosage and compared to your Test base. You could face some problems right at the beginning of your cycle. Run Masteron all the way your cycle. It balances nicely Nandrolone. I would do the following:

1-4:

Test 400
Deca 300
Masteron 300
Dbol 20mg ( if you want to jumpstart, switch to tbol/var if you want dryer compound)

4-10

Test 500
Deca 400
Masteron 300

10-14

Test 600
Deca 400
Masteron 300

 

[Fungui]

Forgot to get an update out, I am starting week 4 tomorrow and feel great. I am currently running the following:

Test 500
Deca 400
Mast 300
NPP 300

This will be my last week with NPP, and I am hoping that the Deca will start kicking in right after. After my last cut I got down to 190 (guessing 10% BF), and I just weighed in at 196. Eating very clean and I am finding that I have TONS of energy during workouts. I am in week 6 of Onslaught 2.0 and am loving every minute. No problems yet in the bedroom, I am hoping the increased Test will combat it. Only issue so far is a mild flareup of acne, but it is manageable.

 

[Fungui]

I’m getting bloods this week, anything extra I should know when interpreting or is it the same as a standard test e blood panel? I’m planning on the labsmd test as it apparently doesn’t get skewed numbers from the deca.

 

[Technician3147]

I am getting ready to start a similar cycle. Can I ask what your pinning schedule is?

 

[Fungui]

Sure thing:

Weeks 1-6
Sunday - NPP 1ml, Mast 1ml
Monday - Deca 1ml, Test 1ml
Wednesday - NPP 1ml, Mast 1ml
Thursday - Deca 1ml, Test 1ml
Friday - Mast 1ml

Changed it up a bit after dropping NPP in order to avoid multi pin days:

Weeks 6-10
Sunday - Mast 1ml
Monday - Deca 1ml
Tuesday - Test 1ml
Wednesday - Mast 1ml
Thursday - Deca 1ml
Friday - Test 1ml, Mast 1ml

Will add VAR to weeks 11-16.

 

[Forthewin1123]

I personally would just run npp not deca.. I also personally like high test for bulking. I personally get better results from higher test then medium test and npp.. that's me.. but regardless test and nandrolone are known for bulking..
If your pinning everyday.. npp ed is supposedly better... I'm currently running it eod.. but my pin schedule is different then yours.. that's all..eat clean lift hard you should get solid results.. won't be insane I don't think but definitely will be solid improvement

Edit:... I did not see the dates and did not realize your already halfway through this haha.. it's time for bed. How has the cycle gone? How's the gains diet and sides if any?