i midaway through my first cycle i was told i should do equipois stacked with winny so far its working , the next cycle that i have been suggested to do is tren with test ,am i in for a waste and if i do what should i do to do it right , just want experienced info so i dont kill myself or waste my time
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am i being fed worhtless junk
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monster.
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What are your goals? I would of advise a rookie to stay away from winstrol for their first cycle.. A good place to start is a decent test cycle.. Pick a longer test ester to run for 10 weeks and you will enjoy that.. Tren and test is a good cycle, it is a bit of a harsher cycle.. Tren requires every other day injections at the least, this may be a pain for you, or may focus you.. You sound like you are very inexperienced, and i wouldn't reccomend a tren/test cycle as of yet.. I would take a test only cycle to begin with to lay some sort of a foundation, and give you confidence going into your third cycle...
Give us a lil more info so we can go into more detail with you bro..
Age, Training experience, what your diet looks like, what are you goals..
good luck
Give us a lil more info so we can go into more detail with you bro..
Age, Training experience, what your diet looks like, what are you goals..
good luck
my goals are jsut to get a soe more mass along as more cut everyones goal i bet lol , im 6'2 180lbs 26yrsold i am allready very lean and cut ive noticed the winny and eq are having some effects im on week 4 ,but i lost most body fat and am defining very well so far so good , no probs with injections except for the problem of i look forward to it . but any suggest are appreciated , another thing is i was giving a bottle of nolvadex and have been told to sart with them now but ive researched a bit and dont know if this is the right thing to add to my current cycle of the eq and winny???monster. said:
LuvMuhRoids
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ewwww...Tren It is the gear of the gods but its is no novice gear to mess with. Stick to test cycles and I concur monsters advice. Plenty time to grow and move on to the hardening gear later. EQ is a good gear to stick with. IMO almost as good as Tren. Increases the red blood cells, hardens gains, leans you out.
joe shmoe
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what about the fact that he weighs a whopping 180lbs and stands 6'2" tall?
forget the drugs friend! here's all you need right now...FOOD FOOD FOOD!!
with your stats, its obvious that you're not eating enough...and not eating enough of the right foods. unless ofcourse you have a hyper active thyroid, but i doubt it since you didnt mention it. spend the next 3 months eating alot of good quality foods...protein shakes/weight gainers, steaks, fish, chicken. eat 4000cals a day. yep four thousand. during this time, stick around and learn how to eat, train, and rest the right way. because if you're not doing these 3 things correctly, AAS is a waste of your time and money. and a waste of "ouchies" from the injections
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or you could just do the drugs anyway. but you'll do them half assed, possibly wind up with boobies, and you'll lose most of your minimal gains because you didnt go through proper PCT.
have a nice day
forget the drugs friend! here's all you need right now...FOOD FOOD FOOD!!
with your stats, its obvious that you're not eating enough...and not eating enough of the right foods. unless ofcourse you have a hyper active thyroid, but i doubt it since you didnt mention it. spend the next 3 months eating alot of good quality foods...protein shakes/weight gainers, steaks, fish, chicken. eat 4000cals a day. yep four thousand. during this time, stick around and learn how to eat, train, and rest the right way. because if you're not doing these 3 things correctly, AAS is a waste of your time and money. and a waste of "ouchies" from the injections
.or you could just do the drugs anyway. but you'll do them half assed, possibly wind up with boobies, and you'll lose most of your minimal gains because you didnt go through proper PCT.
have a nice day
monster.
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No Novaldex shouldn't be necessary for your winstrol/EQ cycle.. Novaldex is an anti estrogen, which blocks and is known to reverse the signs of gyno.. The drugs you are doing, do not convert readily into estrogen so it won't be necessary.. I would personally skip the tren/test this time around and maybe shoot for a test cycle, for 10-12 weeks, maybe even throwing some dbol in..
For Example:
weeks 1-10 test (cypionate, enthanate): 500mgs a week (250mgs every mon/thrus.)
dbol is a good drug to throw in the first 4-5 weeks for this test cycle at around 30mgs/every day..
In this paticular cycle, a good idea is to have that novaldex for signs of gyno.. Test and dbol both readily convert into estrogen, and you run the chance of acquring gyno from a cycle like this..
Finally post cycle therapy should be started 3 weeks after your final test injection.. Pick up some Clomid, and this will help you kickstart your natural test production..
I tried to sum that cycle up best i could.. That cycle combined with a clean diet, and hardcore training bro.. All your going to do is grow.. It's good times for sure..
good luck man
For Example:
weeks 1-10 test (cypionate, enthanate): 500mgs a week (250mgs every mon/thrus.)
dbol is a good drug to throw in the first 4-5 weeks for this test cycle at around 30mgs/every day..
In this paticular cycle, a good idea is to have that novaldex for signs of gyno.. Test and dbol both readily convert into estrogen, and you run the chance of acquring gyno from a cycle like this..
Finally post cycle therapy should be started 3 weeks after your final test injection.. Pick up some Clomid, and this will help you kickstart your natural test production..
I tried to sum that cycle up best i could.. That cycle combined with a clean diet, and hardcore training bro.. All your going to do is grow.. It's good times for sure..
good luck man
Grizzly
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Damn, Joe, why don't you go and steal all my thunder.
joe shmoe
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sorry griz. you really are the king of eating. atleast you were before you started dieting.
have a nice day
have a nice day
Grizzly
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joe shmoe said:
Shit, I'm still taking in 3500-4000 cal/day. That's hard without carbs, let me tell you. I'm never hungry when I'm supposed to be and always hungry after I'm not supposed to be. It's a bitch.
2nd cycle
Bro, no offense, but I don't think you are quite ready for a tren cycle. You may need to get a few things in order first and also have a little more experience with gear before you go for the harsher compounds. At 6'2 and 180lbs you may need to concentrate on your diet. Possibly up your protein intake to at least 2.5 to 3.5 grams or more per pound of body wieght. If you don't eat enough and train right you are basically wasting your money on gear.Dude, the basic test,deca and dbol would probably be your best bet. Also I think you'd be alot happier with your current cycle if you had included some test in it. Save the tren until your at least over 200lbs.
Bro, no offense, but I don't think you are quite ready for a tren cycle. You may need to get a few things in order first and also have a little more experience with gear before you go for the harsher compounds. At 6'2 and 180lbs you may need to concentrate on your diet. Possibly up your protein intake to at least 2.5 to 3.5 grams or more per pound of body wieght. If you don't eat enough and train right you are basically wasting your money on gear.Dude, the basic test,deca and dbol would probably be your best bet. Also I think you'd be alot happier with your current cycle if you had included some test in it. Save the tren until your at least over 200lbs.
Grizzly
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2.5-3.5/lb?
