American Gladiators Documentary Muscles Mayhem has some questionable characterizations of aas use

[bornSkinny]

So the new American Gladiators documentary came out yesterday on Netflix. If you’re around my age you probably watched the show as a kid like I did.

Watched a few episodes so far and they seem to have some unfriendly characterizations of aas use. Generalizations about side effects and roid rage. Also seems like in the interviews some of the gladiators are being less than honest about their use.

Has anyone watched yet?
What do you think?

Entertainment products like this have a huge impact on how the general public thinks about aas use. It annoys me when I think they get it wrong.

 

[spamwizard]

That was a fun show. Haven't watched the doc but will soon. After trying aas it has done 1000 times more for my quality of life than any doctor ever would and has saved me from a life of misery, suffering from mystery inflammation among other things that the doctors couldn't give two shits about. Seems to me the healthcare system, advertisers, entertainment industry etc etc just want the average guy to be sick, weak, unmotivated, and miserable. Is it any coincidence aas became illegal right around the same time the advertisers tried to make young men idolize guys like Kurt Cobain? And be 90s edgy losers...

 

[bornSkinny]

That was a fun show. Haven't watched the doc but will soon. After trying aas it has done 1000 times more for my quality of life than any doctor ever would and has saved me from a life of misery, suffering from mystery inflammation among other things that the doctors couldn't give two shits about. Seems to me the healthcare system, advertisers, entertainment industry etc etc just want the average guy to be sick, weak, unmotivated, and miserable. Is it any coincidence aas became illegal right around the same time the advertisers tried to make young men idolize guys like Kurt Cobain? And be 90s edgy losers...

Not sure it’s easy to say exactly why aas are illegal in the US at this time. That’s a political conversation I suppose. I would say whatever your political orientation, it’s difficult to look at the facts presented about aas and other ped products and come to the conclusion that a broad prohibition is/was a good policy decision.

 

[spamwizard]

Not sure it’s easy to say exactly why aas are illegal in the US at this time. That’s a political conversation I suppose. I would say whatever your political orientation, it’s difficult to look at the facts presented about aas and other ped products and come to the conclusion that a broad prohibition is/was a good policy decision.

Definitely there's some correlation between the steroid prohibition and the media scare campaign that the American Gladiators documentary seems to be participating in. The Chris Benoit sort of stuff. The notion that roids'll turn you into some freak who kills your family maybe, meanwhile the fact that the Benoit home was littered with empty alcohol bottles is never brought up. It's so unscientific to immediately conclude that roids caused the murder when one could easily argue that alcohol causes far more rage than roids. If Netflix had commercials, you'd be certain to be presented a bunch of folks having a great time drinking and partying. It's more than annoying and wrong it's sinister.

 

[SenorSuperdrol]

Not sure it’s easy to say exactly why aas are illegal in the US at this time. That’s a political conversation I suppose. I would say whatever your political orientation, it’s difficult to look at the facts presented about aas and other ped products and come to the conclusion that a broad prohibition is/was a good policy decision.

Is Mike O’ Tren in the Documentary he’s was a gladiator right?

Idk if you follow Rick Collins, he’s the steroid lawyer and a contributor of Meso from time to time. Anyways, his synapses on why steriods are illegal in the states, is because of Ben Johnson. When America lost to the sprinter from Canada in the Olympics who was on Winny (caught in drug test). Congress wanted to make them illegal. The FDA and other regulatory bodies actually argued against the scheduling of AAS, but congress persisted. And here we are today.

 

[bornSkinny]

Is Mike O’ Tren in the Documentary he’s was a gladiator right?

Idk if you follow Rick Collins, he’s the steroid lawyer and a contributor of Meso from time to time. Anyways, his synapses on why steriods are illegal in the states, is because of Ben Johnson. When America lost to the sprinter from Canada in the Olympics who was on Winny (caught in drug test). Congress wanted to make them illegal. The FDA and other regulatory bodies actually argued against the scheduling of AAS, but congress persisted. And here we are today.

Mike O tren wasn’t in the doc. Apparently he was only a back up gladiator called Thor in the original series. Then became the captain of the gladiators in the 2008 reboot calling himself Titan. I never saw the reboot, and it’s not covered in the doc at all.

I did see some articles mentioning what you had said about high profile athletes testing dirty, and then the government commissioned a report and even the FDA, and DEA didn’t think they should become scheduled but they went ahead and did it anyway. It just becomes a political conversation I guess, but it’s difficult to defend the action on its merits. It’s like when Nixon commissioned that study about cannabis prohibition and then promptly discarded it when it said it should not be a scheduled drug.

 

[bornSkinny]

Definitely there's some correlation between the steroid prohibition and the media scare campaign that the American Gladiators documentary seems to be participating in. The Chris Benoit sort of stuff. The notion that roids'll turn you into some freak who kills your family maybe, meanwhile the fact that the Benoit home was littered with empty alcohol bottles is never brought up. It's so unscientific to immediately conclude that roids caused the murder when one could easily argue that alcohol causes far more rage than roids. If Netflix had commercials, you'd be certain to be presented a bunch of folks having a great time drinking and partying. It's more than annoying and wrong it's sinister.

Mmmm. You know it’s funny you mention Benoit. If you were trying to make a case for abuse of androgens causing psychological issues, that one would really make me think maybe. I mean, didn’t that guy always, and I mean always have that tren look going on?
For years he was jacked lean and veiny. Never looked off.

But then again, maybe it was a CTE head shot thing from jumping off the top ropes and taking chairs to the head. Tragic.

 

[spamwizard]

Mmmm. You know it’s funny you mention Benoit. If you were trying to make a case for abuse of androgens causing psychological issues, that one would really make me think maybe. I mean, didn’t that guy always, and I mean always have that tren look going on?
For years he was jacked lean and veiny. Never looked off.

But then again, maybe it was a CTE head shot thing from jumping off the top ropes and taking chairs to the head. Tragic.

I know what you mean I guess that's why the anti-steroid propaganda people jumped all over that one lol.

Yeah haha he was so stacked that his body had a disproportionate appearance. He almost looked like a midget. And yeah he didn't have the typical body of a wrestler. They usually aren't very lean, I guess it helps em take the bumps. He was super muscular and vascular. So he only had test C in his system. No other steroids in the toxicology report. That's surprising.

The murder scene seemed to point to mental illness as opposed to a violent rage. There weren't bruises or scratches, and there were bibles placed on the bodies. I think he left some phone messages saying good-bye to people if I remember correctly. Not exactly the behaviour you'd expect from a man in a blind rage. I think you're right, the CTE must have been a factor. I always remember thinking that the flying headbutt was one of the craziest moves in wrestling.

But just really irresponsible of the media to try to make a cut and dry case of roid rage out of the murder when other factors are involved.