Another Glutamine question...

[DIESEL650]

What is the best product out there? There are millions out there and just wondering which is the most prefered.

Peace..

 

[Reinheart]

Each one of us is different. Something that may work good for you may not work good for me. So, in general i would say:

MRM L-Glutamine
Twinlab glutamine fuel and L-Glutamine 1500.

 

[jsupstarz]

It's mostly personal preference, anything is fine except maybe no name crap. Glutamine is as important to me as food.

 

[rea$on]

I use ProLab GL

 

[asapnutrition1]

I like nutraplanets 1kg glutamine from nutraplanet.com
Also from probolix which you can get at nutraplanet.com. Both are under $30

 

[Superior1]

The absolute best is from Korea (Fermented). I've run across some good fermented Chinese Glutamine but it's too inconsistent (meaning texture, smell differs from batch to batch). This is from trial and error for years and dealing with hundreds of Kilos a month.

 

[novicebb]

I am still learning about glutamine but I heard there is different ways they manufacture L-glutamine and believe it or not I read somewhere the most common way is created from fermentation from hair follicles. I can't remember where I read that from but when I do find out I will post it here but it is similar to when I read years ago about why some protein bars were so inferior because many were made from gelatin from pig cartilage, crushed bones and other inferior protein sources. That is why some were so cheap.

 

[jmills]

Novice, I believe that crap (along with horns, and hooves) is what they are referring too when you see "hydrolyzed gelatin" on the ingredients label....AND they have the balls to count that shit as PROTEIN.

Which is precisely why I make my own now.

Sorry to hijack the thread...all i know about Glutamine is youre supposed to take it on an empty stomach...which pretty much counts me out, my stomach freakin HURTS when it's empty.

 

[role model]

You don't have to take it on an empty stomach.

 

[jmills]

From everything I've read, almost all of it is wasted if you don't take it on an empty stomach.

 

[role model]

From everything I've read, almost all of it is wasted if you don't take it on an empty stomach.

I just Googled L-Glutamine Directions and read about 7 of them and not one said to take on an empty stomach.

Following an intense workout your body needs to replenish glutamine stores to aid in recovery. L-Glutamine can help increase muscle cell hydration and aid in protein synthesis. These and more functions of L-Glutamine can benefit athletes and bodybuilders by improving recovery and performance.
Serving 10g Glutamine, one to three times daily.
This product can be taken in conjunction with Cold Juice, Water, Whey Protein Concentrate, Dried Egg Albumen or Creatine. Mixes easy in a blender.

 

[deathgrip07]

I've never heard of taking Glutamine on an empty stomach either. If that were the case, I'd be fucked because I eat constantly and my stomach is never "empty"

 

[jmills]

okay, maybe I've been ignoring an important sup because of some misinformation. I'll do some more research, and I appreciate the info. Glad i chimed in....looks like I may have learned something

 

[jmills]

Hmmmm....maybe not. As I brushed up on my research skills, I realized that the "empty stomach" thing came from an old advert for an EAS supp. Gluta-someshit, I don't remeber...the point is it was supposed to cause my body to release a greater amount of GH if I took a couple of grams of Glutamine on an empty stomach prior to going to bed. Just another case of a company cashing in on a little sketchy science and touting their product as the next wonder drug.
Totally unrelated, but has anyone seen the "jay cutler OFFICIAL MASS STACK" being sold at GNC...I about choked to keep from laughing out loud. Mass stack my ass, but I bet they sell the hell out of it!
Maybe not so far from the point....all I can find that points to beneficial results from oral Glutamine supplementation either comes from someone trying to sell it (making it BS as far as I'm concerned) or it speaks to the health benefits of having a healthy gut. Which I suppose is important, but in reality when you look at the amount of glutamine already present in your shakes, chicken and other food I'm thinking you would have to be in prison to have enough of a defeciency to make oral supplementation effective AT ALL.

Here's one:
Effect of glutamine supplementation combined with resistance training in young adults.Candow DG, Chilibeck PD, Burke DG, Davison KS, Smith-Palmer T.
College of Kinesiology, University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada.

The purpose of this study was to assess the effect of oral glutamine supplementation combined with resistance training in young adults. A group of 31 subjects, aged 18-24 years, were randomly allocated to groups (double blind) to receive either glutamine (0.9 g x kg lean tissue mass(-1) x day(-1); n = 17) or a placebo (0.9 g maltodextrin x kg lean tissue mass(-1) x day(-1); n = 14 during 6 weeks of total body resistance training. Exercises were performed for four to five sets of 6-12 repetitions at intensities ranging from 60% to 90% 1 repetition maximum (1 RM). Before and after training, measurements were taken of 1 RM squat and bench press strength, peak knee extension torque (using an isokinetic dynamometer), lean tissue mass (dual energy X-ray absorptiometry) and muscle protein degradation (urinary 3-methylhistidine by high performance liquid chromatography). Repeated measures ANOVA showed that strength, torque, lean tissue mass and 3-methylhistidine increased with training (P < 0.05), with no significant difference between groups. Both groups increased their 1 RM squat by approximately 30% and 1 RM bench press by approximately 14%. The glutamine group showed increases of 6% for knee extension torque, 2% for lean tissue mass and 41% for urinary levels of 3-methylhistidine. The placebo group increased knee extension torque by 5%, lean tissue mass by 1.7% and 3-methylhistidine by 56%. We conclude that glutamine supplementation during resistance training has no significant effect on muscle performance, body composition or muscle protein degradation in young healthy adults. ( I added the emphasis )
PMID: 11822473 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Sooo, I'm not saying anyone is wrong...and if you got something that is working for you then go for it bro, we are all different and thats what makes this stuff fun. I'm just going to go on the record and say I don't think it really matters what kind of Glutamine you buy, I doubt it really makes a difference...unless you are starving, a burn victim or working on a chain gang or something and then I would think the brand of your Glutamine is kind of a low priority, right?

I'll save my money for some more Tuna steaks...I know that stuff works!

 

[jmills]

I just Googled L-Glutamine Directions and read about 7 of them and not one said to take on an empty stomach.

Following an intense workout your body needs to replenish glutamine stores to aid in recovery. L-Glutamine can help increase muscle cell hydration and aid in protein synthesis. These and more functions of L-Glutamine can benefit athletes and bodybuilders by improving recovery and performance.
Serving 10g Glutamine, one to three times daily.
This product can be taken in conjunction with Cold Juice, Water, Whey Protein Concentrate, Dried Egg Albumen or Creatine. Mixes easy in a blender.

I hear you bro, but that came from an advert for AST GL3 L-Glutamine...of course they only have our best interests at heart

But hey, the power of suggestion is a proven phenomenon...if you believe the hype maybe it will work for you. It worked for Peter Pan [)]

 

[role model]

Hmmmm....maybe not. As I brushed up on my research skills, I realized that the "empty stomach" thing came from an old advert for an EAS supp. Gluta-someshit, I don't remeber...the point is it was supposed to cause my body to release a greater amount of GH if I took a couple of grams of Glutamine on an empty stomach prior to going to bed. Just another case of a company cashing in on a little sketchy science and touting their product as the next wonder drug.
Totally unrelated, but has anyone seen the "jay cutler OFFICIAL MASS STACK" being sold at GNC...I about choked to keep from laughing out loud. Mass stack my ass, but I bet they sell the hell out of it!
Maybe not so far from the point....all I can find that points to beneficial results from oral Glutamine supplementation either comes from someone trying to sell it (making it BS as far as I'm concerned) or it speaks to the health benefits of having a healthy gut. Which I suppose is important, but in reality when you look at the amount of glutamine already present in your shakes, chicken and other food I'm thinking you would have to be in prison to have enough of a defeciency to make oral supplementation effective AT ALL.

Here's one:
Effect of glutamine supplementation combined with resistance training in young adults.Candow DG, Chilibeck PD, Burke DG, Davison KS, Smith-Palmer T.
College of Kinesiology, University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada.

The purpose of this study was to assess the effect of oral glutamine supplementation combined with resistance training in young adults. A group of 31 subjects, aged 18-24 years, were randomly allocated to groups (double blind) to receive either glutamine (0.9 g x kg lean tissue mass(-1) x day(-1); n = 17) or a placebo (0.9 g maltodextrin x kg lean tissue mass(-1) x day(-1); n = 14 during 6 weeks of total body resistance training. Exercises were performed for four to five sets of 6-12 repetitions at intensities ranging from 60% to 90% 1 repetition maximum (1 RM). Before and after training, measurements were taken of 1 RM squat and bench press strength, peak knee extension torque (using an isokinetic dynamometer), lean tissue mass (dual energy X-ray absorptiometry) and muscle protein degradation (urinary 3-methylhistidine by high performance liquid chromatography). Repeated measures ANOVA showed that strength, torque, lean tissue mass and 3-methylhistidine increased with training (P < 0.05), with no significant difference between groups. Both groups increased their 1 RM squat by approximately 30% and 1 RM bench press by approximately 14%. The glutamine group showed increases of 6% for knee extension torque, 2% for lean tissue mass and 41% for urinary levels of 3-methylhistidine. The placebo group increased knee extension torque by 5%, lean tissue mass by 1.7% and 3-methylhistidine by 56%. We conclude that glutamine supplementation during resistance training has no significant effect on muscle performance, body composition or muscle protein degradation in young healthy adults. ( I added the emphasis )
PMID: 11822473 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Sooo, I'm not saying anyone is wrong...and if you got something that is working for you then go for it bro, we are all different and thats what makes this stuff fun. I'm just going to go on the record and say I don't think it really matters what kind of Glutamine you buy, I doubt it really makes a difference...unless you are starving, a burn victim or working on a chain gang or something and then I would think the brand of your Glutamine is kind of a low priority, right?

I'll save my money for some more Tuna steaks...I know that stuff works!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/eas/lglut.html

 

[jmills]

RM, I don't get it....you posted a link to an advertisement for EAS L glutamine in response to my post with a scientific study? Am I missing something? I have alot of respect for you RM, and i certainly don't want to get in a spitting contest with anyone...but wtf was that link to an advertisement s'posed to prove?

What do you really expect from people who sell the stuff?