Anti-E question

[Adogg4]

Hey bros, have a question about which anti-e would be the most effective regarding 4 different steroids. I will have nolva and proviron on hand, and a small amount of clomid. I can get others but would prefer to stay with what I have unless necessary. Will these 2 (nolva and proviron) be enough to protect against excess estrogen for the following drugs: Test En, EQ, D-bol, Winny(dont expect any problems with that one). ? Thanks

 

[Patuba]

You don't really have to worry about estrogen with EQ. The Nolva and Proviron will be sufficent for Test E and D-bol.

 

[MANWHORE]

Only you know if those will be enough.... enough for what? keeping water down,fat down,tits down? ... Unless you have problems with gyno,i say let the estrogen flow. I'm guessing this is a bulking cycle,right?

 

[Animalhouse]

What doses are you using? Proviron is thought to have some anti aromatose activity so reduces the conversion not just blocking of estrogen-but as Manwhore said it depends on how you react to gear-if you get alot of bloat from estrogen you might want to use arimidex or femera-anti aromatose drugs. Its best to keep estrogen in the normal range as too high or too low affects your Hpta and can cause problems later in recovery. Post up your doses and how you react to test etc usually and we can work from there mate.

 

[Adogg4]

This will actually be my first cycle. I am going to run Test Enan. at 250mg/week for 10 weeks, and 400mg/week EQ for 10 weeks also. I am about 6', 200lbs, 7-8%. Have been training about 7 years, I am now 20. My friend will be running the Dbol at 20-30mg/ED for the first 4 weeks, and the Winstrol at 300mg/week for 8 weeks. I think the anti-e's that I have should be enough..but wanted to get some input from people with firsthand experience. Thanks

 

[bigpmp]

This will actually be my first cycle. I am going to run Test Enan. at 250mg/week for 10 weeks, and 400mg/week EQ for 10 weeks also. I am about 6', 200lbs, 7-8%. Have been training about 7 years, I am now 20. My friend will be running the Dbol at 20-30mg/ED for the first 4 weeks, and the Winstrol at 300mg/week for 8 weeks. I think the anti-e's that I have should be enough..but wanted to get some input from people with firsthand experience. Thanks

You need to kick your test up. It should be the cornerstone of your cycle. You also need to run the test one week longer than the Eq. Please tell me you have plenty of Novladex or Clomid for PCT. You have been training since you were 13 years old. That is pretty impressive you must be at your genetic limit and need the AAS to grow at all, right? I mean that is why you are using them right? Oh yeah, I am assuming your diet is in check too. At least 1 gram protien per pound of body weight, good protien/carb/fat ratio and plenty of water right? Not to mention 10 hours sleep per night and solid training program. All that is good to go right? Otherwise, what the hell are you doing? Steroids are not the magic cure. They will not make you desireable to women. They will not make you a manly man. They are however very usefull if everything else is in check. Please, educate yourself before you put drugs into your body.

 

[Animalhouse]

I agree with bigpmp testosterone should be the cornerstone of your cycle-are there reasons why you do not want to use more test? If not I would run the cycle as follows:

Test enanthate}

week1} load 750mg on monday-250mg on friday of 1st week. After that:

weeks 2-10} 500mg of test a week-250mg monday and friday.

weeks 11-12} test propionate 100mg every other day

Equipoise}

week 1} load 600mg on monday-200mg on friday of 1st week

weeks 2-10} 400mg-200mg monday and friday

Recovery regime

Use Hcg twice a week 250-500iu each time weeks 1-11

Week 13} use clomid at a loaded dose of 300-400mg on the 1st day then 50mg a day for 6 weeks.

For those doses 10mg of nolvas a day will be fine use this from the start upto week 13 and you can carry on using it alongside the clomid at 20mg a day from week 13-18- many people choose to use both given the various arguments over which drug is better-50mg of proviron a day will keep you drier and harder too this can be used from the start right up until you start clomid in week 13.Your friends cycle is not well thought out however. What are his goals? To cut up? If so he shouldnt be using dianabol. For cutting test prop and winstrol would be much better-for bulking the above cycle I typed out. Using prop in a first cycle may seem over complicated to some-but if you are going to use steroids you should be educated enough to do it right and also this being your first cycle your bodys hormones have never been affected by a cycle so it is a chance to get off to the right start. Using prop means you cross over from anabolic to recovery levels very quickly and is tried and tested method of ending a cycle many recommend including myself. i hope this helps mate-any questions just ask!

 

[Adogg4]

Animalhouse thanks for the advice bro. All I am going to have at the start of my cycle is a 10ml vial of 250mg/ml test en, and 2 10ml vials of EQ at 200mg/ml. So I tried to put something together based on this..also based on what I have read, EQ seems that it would allow one to take a lower dose of test, without getting as many side effects. Since it is my first cycle I would think that 650mg/week of steroids should be enough.

My friend has 2000mg of Winstrol, and 1000mg (10mg tabs) of Dbol. We both have proviron, nolva ,clomid and hcg. We have 4 steroids total: EQ, test, dbol, and winny. Would there be a better way to stack these than test/eq winny/dbol?

 

[Animalhouse]

Animalhouse thanks for the advice bro. All I am going to have at the start of my cycle is a 10ml vial of 250mg/ml test en, and 2 10ml vials of EQ at 200mg/ml. So I tried to put something together based on this..also based on what I have read, EQ seems that it would allow one to take a lower dose of test, without getting as many side effects. Since it is my first cycle I would think that 650mg/week of steroids should be enough.

My friend has 2000mg of Winstrol, and 1000mg (10mg tabs) of Dbol. We both have proviron, nolva ,clomid and hcg. We have 4 steroids total: EQ, test, dbol, and winny. Would there be a better way to stack these than test/eq winny/dbol?

Well 250 test-400mg eq would be a reasonable first cycle-but if you are going to interfere with your bodys hormones its best to do it as optimally as possible. If you want to use 650mg total a week thats fine but a frontload would be preferable-you can always save the remaining 8ml of Eq from an extra 10ml of vial for another cycle-and to load the test buy 2 individual amps. You could use winstrol in place of test prop to come off the cycle-but as i wrote originally is a nice basic stack just use 250mg of test a week and keep everything else the same. Your friend-he needs to get some testosterone-but again I dont know his goals bulk/cut? Regardless winstrol and dianabol is not sufficient for a good cycle.

 

[Slick Arrado]

Animalhouse thanks for the advice bro. All I am going to have at the start of my cycle is a 10ml vial of 250mg/ml test en, and 2 10ml vials of EQ at 200mg/ml. So I tried to put something together based on this..also based on what I have read, EQ seems that it would allow one to take a lower dose of test, without getting as many side effects. Since it is my first cycle I would think that 650mg/week of steroids should be enough.

My friend has 2000mg of Winstrol, and 1000mg (10mg tabs) of Dbol. We both have proviron, nolva ,clomid and hcg. We have 4 steroids total: EQ, test, dbol, and winny. Would there be a better way to stack these than test/eq winny/dbol?

How long are you, or your friend, planning on running the orals? What dosage?