Anybody know anything about these?

[GMC]

Ordered locally from different fella, and got these.

I’ve never seen or heard of either brands before…but the guy said they are ‘top stuff’ as they always do!! (So only took one of each)

Do any of you guys know anything about either of them?

Maybe they are alright, maybe not…it’s 50/50 - I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again - from now on, I’m totally done with ‘local’ sourcing!!

It’s exhausting never getting the same brand twice, and never knowing what I’m going to get on the day.
The only thing consistent is getting the ‘top stuff’ gym bro sales pitch!!

 

[Rido]

not attacking you.

The term "top stuff" is always some of the dumbest shit I hear

Or "cheap steroids causes side effects" so you are telling me that because it's "fake" now it's causing the side effects that the FDA established when it was under clinical investigation



Here is my real response.
A drug is a drug. Accuracy of dosing may vary same with sterility.
Sterility
Accuracy
Right drug
Customer service
This is what top stuff really is.

Despite my favorite sources I would not expect test C from one to differr in results from a pharma if it's the same dosing/right drug.

I highly doubt someone would fake testosterone. Possibly fake the masteron. But gotta do your research

 

[GMC]

not attacking you.

The term "top stuff" is always some of the dumbest shit I hear

Or "cheap steroids causes side effects" so you are telling me that because it's "fake" now it's causing the side effects that the FDA established when it was under clinical investigation



Here is my real response.
A drug is a drug. Accuracy of dosing may vary same with sterility.
Sterility
Accuracy
Right drug
Customer service
This is what top stuff really is.

Despite my favorite sources I would not expect test C from one to differr in results from a pharma if it's the same dosing/right drug.

I highly doubt someone would fake testosterone. Possibly fake the masteron. But gotta do your research

Yeah, I know what you’re saying.

I wasn’t suggesting they were ‘fakes’ - I only asked if anybody had ever come across these labs before, or had any experience with them - as it’s the first time I’ve had them in all my years… and I didn’t find much while doing a bit of digging.

Most local suppliers that I’ve come across have always use the ‘top stuff’ push (understandably), otherwise they wouldn’t make any money - These days you just don’t know if they are giving a legit opinion or just a sales pitch…I’ll find out soon enough, no doubt!!

The more opinions, the better!!

 

[Megadick3000]

I highly doubt someone would fake testosterone. Possibly fake the masteron. But gotta do your research

Many moons ago on a Canadian BB forum there was a UGL called PV Labs that was run by a respected member of the board.

A guy was running their gear and kept losing size, couldnt understand why he wasnt blowing up. Few months later someone lab tested their shit finally.

It was all, their entire line, sterile oils with no active ingredients at all.

Needless to say that respected member and his UGL went from respected to scammer status real quick.

Moral of the story: scammers gonna scam. Whilst rare, it does happen that shit contains no API at all. You just never know. Of course buying pharma is subject to counterfeits, some being extremely well replicated, so theres no guarantee there either.

 

[milkbone]

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It was all, their entire line, sterile oils with no active ingredients at all. ,......

No way, only 1 guy noticed? This "UGL" was that good at evading questions or anything like that? Damn, says a lot about either his customer base besides one, or a lot about desperation and one's mind playing tricks on them with the placebo effect. Wish the Internet Way back Machine could point the forum thread out to me, but unfortunately, that tool can only show what it has been pointed to. If I only knew a forum or thread and timeframe. For science.

 

[kakaboom!21]

Problem with some unknown asian UGLs is that they use synthetic oils for some products that are harder to dissolve, and they don't disclose what exactly they put in it. Especially when drugs come at high concentrations.

That's my biggest problem with any UGL is what solvents and oils they use. Them being sterile or not is only part of the question. Synthetic oils can cause systemic inflammation.
The only times I ever had PIP was when I used water solubles or tried UGL gear. Pharma gear with organic oils never game me PIP, even if I used a lot of volume at once in "virgin" muscles. Even injectable primo felt smooth.
Only testing the oil can really tell how pure and filtered it is and what solvents they actually used.

 

[Sustanation79]

Ordered locally from different fella, and got these.

I’ve never seen or heard of either brands before…but the guy said they are ‘top stuff’ as they always do!! (So only took one of each)

Do any of you guys know anything about either of them?

Maybe they are alright, maybe not…it’s 50/50 - I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again - from now on, I’m totally done with ‘local’ sourcing!!

It’s exhausting never getting the same brand twice, and never knowing what I’m going to get on the day.
The only thing consistent is getting the ‘top stuff’ gym bro sales pitch!!

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Cambridge research is uk based was popular around 2014 ish didn’t realise they were still about, haven’t seen Maxpro in years , It’s Thailand based I believe and was available on the old Www.anabolicsteroidcenter.com website that is LONG gone.

 

[GMC]

Cambridge research is uk based was popular around 2014 ish didn’t realise they were still about, haven’t seen Maxpro in years , It’s Thailand based I believe and was available on the old Www.anabolicsteroidcenter.com website that is LONG gone.

It seems they are back, or somebody is reusing the brand.

I picked them up locally(UK) the other week, all expiry dates are good, so the stuff is new.

Do you remember if the branding style is the same as before or not?

Ill start on again in a week or two, undecided if I’ll run these or just keep them for ‘reserve’ - I don’t like to switch brands mid cycle, and I done with local shopping now…I’m finally moving with the times!!haha.

 

[Logan44551]

Ordered locally from different fella, and got these.

I’ve never seen or heard of either brands before…but the guy said they are ‘top stuff’ as they always do!! (So only took one of each)

Do any of you guys know anything about either of them?

Maybe they are alright, maybe not…it’s 50/50 - I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again - from now on, I’m totally done with ‘local’ sourcing!!

It’s exhausting never getting the same brand twice, and never knowing what I’m going to get on the day.
The only thing consistent is getting the ‘top stuff’ gym bro sales pitch!!

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I'd stay away from anything in colored vials, no way to see floaters.

 

[GuerillaPete]

I'd stay away from anything in colored vials, no way to see floaters.

You can see them in the syringe !

 

[Logan44551]

You can see them in the syringe !

If you suck one up in the first injection sure that'd be great. Chances are you're not going to see it until you've been injecting contaminated oil

 

[GuerillaPete]

If you suck one up in the first injection sure that'd be great. Chances are you're not going to see it until you've been injecting contaminated oil

I did not know the oil gets contaminated .
You gave me another thing to worry about now thank you very much !

 

[Logan44551]

I did not know the oil gets contaminated .
You gave me another thing to worry about now thank you very much !

I mean if it has floaters chances are it wasn't filtered properly and could be unsterile. I prefer clear vials and a visual inspection before use.

 

[Rido]

I mean if it has floaters chances are it wasn't filtered properly and could be unsterile. I prefer clear vials and a visual inspection before use.

I know testosterone does have photodegredation but for UGL.... They most likely won't cause the vials are more expensive

 

[Logan44551]

I know testosterone does have photodegredation but for UGL.... They most likely won't cause the vials are more expensive

I store my gear in a dark cabinet so that isn't as much of a concern for.me as floaters

 

[LFG2000]

I'd stay away from anything in colored vials, no way to see floaters.

My mast from Beligas is in a colored vial...are you saying you wouldn't use it? From what I have read, Beligas seems to be legit, I am trying mast for the first time on my next cycle.

 

[Megadick3000]

No way, only 1 guy noticed? This "UGL" was that good at evading questions or anything like that? Damn, says a lot about either his customer base besides one, or a lot about desperation and one's mind playing tricks on them with the placebo effect. Wish the Internet Way back Machine could point the forum thread out to me, but unfortunately, that tool can only show what it has been pointed to. If I only knew a forum or thread and timeframe. For science.

It was on CJM forum. Time frame i guess this was between 2000-2003 or somewhere ariund then. The lab was called PV Labs.

Im not sure all their gear was always bunk. Personally i think maybe their first batches were legit, but when the raws ran out it seems they just started selling sterile oil instead and relying on pre-existing reputation and placebo effect. Eventually their bullshit got exposed though.

 

[milkbone]

My mast from Beligas is in a colored vial...are you saying you wouldn't use it? From what I have read, Beligas seems to be legit, I am trying mast for the first time on my next cycle.

I've had good results from Beligas, and @SkankHunt has had their products tested, good tests. That said, unless you have a super great hookup OR a super scumbag oil replacer, Beligas costs like 3, even 4 times what the best UGLs do, even cost more than legit pharma. I've used them in the past from what I assume is their main US distributor whom also sells their other brands like Odin and another who's name escapes me right now. I don't use the seller anymore, but they are forever spamming me with 40 and 50% off codes. If you're interested and I can be sure that the code isn't attached to my account, I'd be happy to hook you up, I made a spare acct with them with assumed name and address back when they accepted Venmo or Google Pay, or whatever that wasn't BTC. Wouldn't mind giving you a code a bit, and it doesn't attach to me in any way is all that I have to be positive on. BTW, GoodLyfe and Stan's mast is in clear bottles and smoother as well IMO. I don't know everything, just seeing if I can help a guy out, be that guy rich typing from his yacht or an average Joe, no offense meant at all.

 

[LFG2000]

I've had good results from Beligas, and @SkankHunt has had their products tested, good tests. That said, unless you have a super great hookup OR a super scumbag oil replacer, Beligas costs like 3, even 4 times what the best UGLs do, even cost more than legit pharma. I've used them in the past from what I assume is their main US distributor whom also sells their other brands like Odin and another who's name escapes me right now. I don't use the seller anymore, but they are forever spamming me with 40 and 50% off codes. If you're interested and I can be sure that the code isn't attached to my account, I'd be happy to hook you up, I made a spare acct with them with assumed name and address back when they accepted Venmo or Google Pay, or whatever that wasn't BTC. Wouldn't mind giving you a code a bit, and it doesn't attach to me in any way is all that I have to be positive on. BTW, GoodLyfe and Stan's mast is in clear bottles and smoother as well IMO. I don't know everything, just seeing if I can help a guy out, be that guy rich typing from his yacht or an average Joe, no offense meant at all.

Yes, the Mast Enth was nearly $130 but I got somewhat of a deal being that it was a BOGO. It has the holographic sticker used to seal the box and the all the codes checked out on the Beligas website. Thanks for your reply.

 

[milkbone]

How'd you like that building on the Beligas site @LFG2000? Good Photoshop, Beligas is Chinese, not Belgian or whatever. Them, Odin, Online Anabolic Shop, and I believe Saxon all come from the same place. Likely more but I haven't bothered with the main US source for them in years after finding JuicePal, then unfortunately having to move, but meet more great people like GL and Stan plus King Var! Flush Beligas and their $170 tren A!