I got a blend of 100 mg test prop, 50mg drostanolone prop, and 50 mg trenbolone acetate per cc called Tri Lean by Pinnacle labs. This is my first time using injectables and the 2 ml shot in my ventroglute was painless till the next day it started swelling. The lump got HUGE hot and red. Then i pinned the other side the next day with .8 ml. Thats swelling too but not as bad as the other side. The past 2 days i pinned my outer quads with slin pins. Is this supposed to hurt this bad? Ive been feeling like shit and cant go to the gym as its a struggle to get in and out of bed... Is it my virgin muscles and is injection pain and swelling sometjing the body just needs to get used to?
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How long ago did you inject your "ventroglute"?
Post injection swelling especially when associated with "redness" is diagnostic of underlying inflammation (chemical or bacterial).
Are you still symptomatic from the initial shot?
Post injection swelling especially when associated with "redness" is diagnostic of underlying inflammation (chemical or bacterial).
Are you still symptomatic from the initial shot?
shamrockbear1
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Garbage I would throw it out sounds contaminated... Not worth an infection or abcess
Your probably alright for the time being. Since I've had multiple visits from patients whom have soreness up to one week post injection of non-pharm grade anabolics. Yet I do suspect QUALITY maybe the primary factor responsible. But understand most anabolics are oil based and since muscle is essentially water (ever tried to mix oil with water?) requires time for adequate absorption. As a general rule injection "soreness" may worsen for up to TWO-THREE days but thereafter should steadily IMPROVE.
Should the condition fail to improve or more importantly WORSEN after THREE days,
other conditions become increasingly more likely such as; myositis or abscess.
I do certainly believe and know from personal experience; QUALITY DOES MATTER, so be willing to pay for the "good stuff" unless you like having a sore ass!
Should the condition fail to improve or more importantly WORSEN after THREE days,
other conditions become increasingly more likely such as; myositis or abscess.
I do certainly believe and know from personal experience; QUALITY DOES MATTER, so be willing to pay for the "good stuff" unless you like having a sore ass!
when soreness from injection how can you tell difference between allergic reaction to benzyl alcohol and an infection abscess?
Thanks for the response dr. Jim.... It is steadily getting better but still sucks lol. I did pay 150 for the vial so i figured it would be good =[. The last injection was 24 hours ago or so and i massaged the site. Theres almost no swelling there but the pain is spread throuhout more of my outter quad... So i assume the oil seeped between more of my muscle fibers and caused less localized trauma?
mac111
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why does everyone jump the gun without knowing the facts????
its his first injectable cycle (and stupid choice) and he is most likely suffering virgin muscle syndrome, i rem pharma sust making me feel like i was a cripple!!!
ive heard of pinnacle and from what i rem, their gear is fairly painful
its his first injectable cycle (and stupid choice) and he is most likely suffering virgin muscle syndrome, i rem pharma sust making me feel like i was a cripple!!!
ive heard of pinnacle and from what i rem, their gear is fairly painful
mac111
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time....
I concur wholeheartedly Mac!
mac111
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the guru is talking about 'advanced use' you are nowhere even near advanced, you are a beginner. you'd be much better suited to making sure your diet and lifestyle are in check before pumping powerful hormones into your body.
if you'd never ridden a motorbike before would you jump on a Fireblade and start caning the ass off it or would you start on say, a 125cc? get the point?
I'm not sure how Bill Roberts would classify his two-week alternating cycle protocol. While it is an advanced approach to cycling, it takes a conservative approach favoring the minimization of side effects rather than maximizing muscle gains. So, does that make it better suited for "advanced" users or "newbie" users?
I remember him saying that his clients mainly preferred to stay on the conservative side... And if any of you read his 2 on/4off case study, you would see that his client had previously done one 8 week cycle in the preceding year and that was his only experience with AAS.... Sounds to me like a "non advanced" user
Some don't listen to wise counsel, as you wish!
mac111
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good point Millard, but should a noob go pumping in grams if he doesnt know what kind of reaction he will have with AAS, or if he doesnt have an experimented with and nailed down diet, or if he hasnt even been training for long? how can he minimise sides if he doesnt even know which compound are giving those sides, due to not having 'felt' his way into compounds?
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mac111
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i concur..........
JUMBO PATRON
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I registered here just to reply to this. I know all about Pinaccle, the Tri Lean product etc.
First off, that is a VERY strong product. It's not for someone who hasn't done an injection before. It is 100mg Test Prop, 50 Tren Ace, 50 Mast Prop per cc suspended in 2% ba, 20%bb, and the rest EO. Does this sound like something for a rookie? Because to me it doesn't.
Rarely do I ever hear any complaints about pinnacle products but let me tell you guys, a blend like that dosed in that manner shouldn't be compared to the post injection pain from a pharm product. Its apples and oranges. To the OP, go find some test eth and some deca or something bro. Sounds to me like your not ready for that type of blend. Especially one that is based in EO and contains so much prop.
The glass is apparently ran through an autoclave just prior to filling and everything is filtered through a .2 micron filter. I'd venture to say the reaction isn't bacterial and more likely chemical.
People are quick to blame the bottle but really, this one speaks for itself.
First off, that is a VERY strong product. It's not for someone who hasn't done an injection before. It is 100mg Test Prop, 50 Tren Ace, 50 Mast Prop per cc suspended in 2% ba, 20%bb, and the rest EO. Does this sound like something for a rookie? Because to me it doesn't.
Rarely do I ever hear any complaints about pinnacle products but let me tell you guys, a blend like that dosed in that manner shouldn't be compared to the post injection pain from a pharm product. Its apples and oranges. To the OP, go find some test eth and some deca or something bro. Sounds to me like your not ready for that type of blend. Especially one that is based in EO and contains so much prop.
The glass is apparently ran through an autoclave just prior to filling and everything is filtered through a .2 micron filter. I'd venture to say the reaction isn't bacterial and more likely chemical.
People are quick to blame the bottle but really, this one speaks for itself.
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JUMBO PATRON
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This is funny to me. You have never used an injectable before but your first shot is a 2 cc banger of this type of blend? I could have told you the outcome before you ever even considered it.
It's similar to guys who do a shot of T400 and then complain that it hurts. Real test, dosed at 400mg/ml is going to have a little bite to it.
I'll say, who ever gave you the advice about your first run with injectables really didn't give you good advice at all. 1cc of this stuff probably would have left you rather uncomfortable. I imagine 2 ccs is crippling. Especially in ventro glutes and quads!!
Hit the area with some hot water in the shower, rub it out, put a heating pad on it etc. It will be fine in a day or two. Good luck.
I run Pinnacle stuff myself and have come across the Tri Lean. The products are very good, I find them to be accurately dosed as I get some solid results from them. Their test 400 does leave me knotted up but I cut it with some eq and it's fine. I gained 12 lbs in the first 10 days on their Test 400.
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I use to buy pinnacle gear back in the day. Loved his stuff. He was busted when the big crack down took place according to the boards we were on back then. Would love to have his info again. He was very honest and took pride in his product.
