Back on track Test Cyp, Anadrol + Var or Win

[Dirtfiend602]

Not new to aas , but haven't run a cycle in about 7 years.

34, 240lbs, 5'10.

In the last couple years I had a kid, got sober, and have gained about 60 lbs. I am historically 180-200 In shape with around 12% bf.

Currently on trt, 200mg/week test cyp + 25mg clomid/.2 mg anastrozole daily. Also pin MIC weekly (methylcobalamin, inositol, choline chloride)

Will post blood work In the coming months.

Test and ai/serm is from a local compounding ancillary, and orals are from Rotterdam. I tolerate orals well, but have been partial to dbol and var historically.

Running liver support, coq10, berberine, chanca piedra, nac, cla, cod oil, pine pollen, quecertin w bromelain, turmeric, a,d,k, and citrus bergamot for cholesterol. ( I have used all of this for years).


Goal is to get to 210. Should be interesting with the anadrol. A clean diet will be a huge part of this cycle ( yikes). I am going to attempt to cut out 90% of my dairy intake. I fucking love cheese.

Input is appreciated, as I have not run multiple orals at the same time before.

Week 1-6
Test 200mg/week might titrate up to 400
Anadrol -25mg 3 days
Winstrol - 25mg 4 days

Week 7-11
Test 200mg- 400 mg

Week 12-16
Test -200mg
Anavar - 50mg 25mg morn 25mg night


Probably continue to cruise on test unless the doc wants to see if I bounce back... and get some hcg if needed. Have higher dose aromasin and adex on hand.



Thanks

 

[DeadliftSpecialist]

Not new to aas , but haven't run a cycle in about 7 years.

34, 240lbs, 5'10.

In the last couple years I had a kid, got sober, and have gained about 60 lbs. I am historically 180-200 In shape with around 12% bf.

Currently on trt, 200mg/week test cyp + 25mg clomid/.2 mg anastrozole daily. Also pin MIC weekly (methylcobalamin, inositol, choline chloride)

Will post blood work In the coming months.

Test and ai/serm is from a local compounding ancillary, and orals are from Rotterdam. I tolerate orals well, but have been partial to dbol and var historically.

Running liver support, coq10, berberine, chanca piedra, nac, cla, cod oil, pine pollen, quecertin w bromelain, turmeric, a,d,k, and citrus bergamot for cholesterol. ( I have used all of this for years).


Goal is to get to 210. Should be interesting with the anadrol. A clean diet will be a huge part of this cycle ( yikes). I am going to attempt to cut out 90% of my dairy intake. I fucking love cheese.

Input is appreciated, as I have not run multiple orals at the same time before.

Week 1-6
Test 200mg/week might titrate up to 400
Anadrol -25mg 3 days
Winstrol - 25mg 4 days

Week 7-11
Test 200mg- 400 mg

Week 12-16
Test -200mg
Anavar - 50mg 25mg morn 25mg night


Probably continue to cruise on test unless the doc wants to see if I bounce back... and get some hcg if needed. Have higher dose aromasin and adex on hand.



Thanks

4 paragraphs on your stack and 2 sentences about your diet tho . you arent new hopefully u just left most of that out cuz its not as fun to talk about as the drugs. ima follow along see how it goes. gl

 

[Dirtfiend602]

The diet will be a challenge, having become a fat fuck. I'll post more diet stuff to stay accountable as I progress through the cycle. I understand the importance of clean eating, especially with the anadrol.


Can't edit my original post, but I may do 50mg anadrol , 25 morning 25 night like the var with short half life. Depends how I tolerate with the win.


Diet basics-
Grapefruit juice before taking orals on empty stomach.

trader Joe's.
frozen chicken breast fillets
Salmon
Shrimp
Green Chile's
Quinoa
Couscous
Mashed cauliflower
Brown and white rice
Green veggies
Frozen grapes
Blueberries
Cottage cheese
Greek yogurt
Steel cut oats
Bananas
Almond butter
Yams or sweet potatoes
Lean ham w no nitrates nitrites

 

[Dirtfiend602]

I have a trt appt with my pc PA tomorrow. Dude is awesome and well versed in aas. Looks like I'll get bloodwork done tomorrow too, as I've been on cyp for 6 months now. Will post results as baseline.


Side note
The quality of the oil I get Is great but they fill two 5 ml vials and they are always a little short. I barely get 4 cc's pulled from them. Going to see about upping dosage tomorrow as well and talking to the pharmacy about that.


Is this common? Maybe residual left over in the twist lok? I never really paid attention to this before because I usually had an extra 2 or three vials when I wasn't on trt... I won't bother to share the cost of the cyp. It's exceptionally expensive.

 

[Dirtfiend602]

"240lbs, 5'10" you need to lose about 50 pounds first, or run tren right away because 240 for someone whose 5'10 is fat af considering you havent ran a cycle in 7 years, so it aint muscle

No tren. No nandrolones. Juice ain't worth the squeeze for me. (sides)

And more like 60 lbs. Yes I am a fat fuck but carry it pretty well.

Week of fasting ,Compound movements road bike cardio and lots of sauna for the next month and I'll drop it quick...a high dose of cla is effective in shedding cortisol related fat for me.

Below is circa 2015-2016. 180 lbs. just running test and maybe 4 weeks of 25mg var, poor diet, booze and weekend cocaine binges.. i was a real winner.

 

[VenomYo]

No tren. No nandrolones. Juice ain't worth the squeeze for me. (sides)

And more like 60 lbs. Yes I am a fat fuck but carry it pretty well.

Week of fasting ,Compound movements road bike cardio and lots of sauna for the next month and I'll drop it quick...a high dose of cla is effective in shedding cortisol related fat for me.

Below is circa 2015-2016. 180 lbs. just running test and maybe 4 weeks of 25mg var, poor diet, booze and weekend cocaine binges.. i was a real winner.



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lmao i deleted my comment because it was too mean, looking good there tho man

 

[Dirtfiend602]

lmao i deleted my comment because it was too mean, looking good there tho man

Don't be a pussy! If I had any feelings to begin with I wouldn't have been offended anyway. Lol

 

[Dirtfiend602]

Went to the doc today , got my lab work order, so will get that done Thursday or Friday.

Doc prescribed me some IM winstrol and hcg to help with a little nut atrophy and fat loss, and recommended phlebotomy therapy ( giving blood ) every 10 weeks to keep blood from not getting too thick.

Advised me to not run the anadrol or var while on the test, but to run the injectable winstrol and Stat at the same test dose throughout the cycle.

Will start the cycle end of this month at the latest. Not sure if I will run the anadrol and var or not.

 

[All Nats McGee]

Went to the doc today , got my lab work order, so will get that done Thursday or Friday.

Doc prescribed me some IM winstrol and hcg to help with a little nut atrophy and fat loss, and recommended phlebotomy therapy ( giving blood ) every 10 weeks to keep blood from not getting too thick.

Advised me to not run the anadrol or var while on the test, but to run the injectable winstrol and Stat at the same test dose throughout the cycle.

Will start the cycle end of this month at the latest. Not sure if I will run the anadrol and var or not.

The doctor told you not to use the adrol or var then prescribed winny? Seems the doctors these days are getting worse and worse. He’s already got you on 200mg test.

Your also taking 1.4mg adex a week. Seems like a lot. Hopefully you got a E2 sensitive test.

 

[Dirtfiend602]

I was hoping for some feedback on that.

I've had really good results with just var and test, so when he said don't run the var I was surprised. I heeded because I don't know what I don't know.

Mentioned I had oral winny and he said he'd write me a script for the injectable.

I'll post lab work when i get it back. E2 will be on there. The clomiphene and anastrozole is compounded , so it's not a big deal to have them cut the dosage if e2 is crashed.

You think the anastrozole is too much? Seemed normal to me... but I never ran adex while on cycle before, just pct

Also have some leftover Adex tablets and I believe those are 1mg and I was running 1 tab a week for pct historically.

 

[All Nats McGee]

I was hoping for some feedback on that.

I've had really good results with just var and test, so when he said don't run the var I was surprised. I heeded because I don't know what I don't know.

Mentioned I had oral winny and he said he'd write me a script for the injectable.

I'll post lab work when i get it back. E2 will be on there. The clomiphene and anastrozole is compounded , so it's not a big deal to have them cut the dosage if e2 is crashed.

You think the anastrozole is too much? Seemed normal to me... but I never ran adex while on cycle before, just pct

Also have some leftover Adex tablets and I believe those are 1mg and I was running 1 tab a week for pct historically.

Nah 1.4mg weekly is not a normal amount for trt. The most important number in that bloodwork is that E2 sensitive number. Low E2 is cardiotoxic. If you get a regular E2 test done then you need to yell at your doctor and tell him to learn how to properly test bloodwork and prescribed drugs.

 

[Dirtfiend602]

Nah 1.4mg weekly is not a normal amount for trt. The most important number in that bloodwork is that E2 sensitive number. Low E2 is cardiotoxic. If you get a regular E2 test done then you need to yell at your doctor and tell him to learn how to properly test bloodwork and prescribed drugs.

Grateful for the reply thank you. I will look at the lab order tomorrow and see what it says.

 

[Ninjaturtle2020]

Tbh i thought this was a joke until i kept reading. Your doctor > my experience with doctors. None the less i responded really well to anavar + testosterone cypionate as my first and only cycle thus far. I was thinking of adding a lower/reasonable dose of winstrol with the anavar
(+T obvs) to my 2nd cycle

 

[Dirtfiend602]

Ya var and cyp always a good go to for me In the past.

 

[Dirtfiend602]

Tbh i thought this was a joke until i kept reading. Your doctor > my experience with doctors. None the less i responded really well to anavar + testosterone cypionate as my first and only cycle thus far. I was thinking of adding a lower/reasonable dose of winstrol with the anavar
(+T obvs) to my 2nd cycle

Why a joke? , because of my meatloaf physique right now? Dick! Haha

 

[Ad_Suspicious801]

No tren. No nandrolones. Juice ain't worth the squeeze for me. (sides)

And more like 60 lbs. Yes I am a fat fuck but carry it pretty well.

Week of fasting ,Compound movements road bike cardio and lots of sauna for the next month and I'll drop it quick...a high dose of cla is effective in shedding cortisol related fat for me.

Below is circa 2015-2016. 180 lbs. just running test and maybe 4 weeks of 25mg var, poor diet, booze and weekend cocaine binges.. i was a real winner.



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that coke gives a good cut lol

 

[stevonov]

what were your estrogen levels at 200mg test a week before doc decided you needed .2mg arimadex every day? definetely do not titrate up on test until you drop the weight.