Back to the gym, looking to recomp, need help adjusting test / primo / HCG

[Kracken]

Guys, in 2025 I had 5 surgeries throughout the year. Jan had a rotator cuff surgery that didn’t work, so it was redone in July after I damaged it more. In the middle there was an eye surgery. Since then I had a surgery on my butt, and then a hernia repair six weeks ago. All this kept my gym time intermittent at best. I have probably lost several pounds of muscle and picked up 10 pounds of fat.

I’m 61yo, 5ft 6in. A year ago DEXA said I was at 12.9% BF. I’m cleared to go back to the gym for any level of activity at this point. My typical is an upper lower split 4 days per week. I used Reta and some Winny to try to keep the fat gain under control and I am on TRT (on the very high side at 280mg weekly) with HCG.

My goal is to try a recomp.

Notable data points from labs drawn 8 days ago report:

RBC 6.31 Million/uL
Hemoglobin 19.0 g/dl *****
Hemocrit 58.6% *****

Estradiol 100 pg/mL *****
Free Test 238.3pg/mL
Total Test 797ng/dL
IGF1 113ng/mL
ZScore -0.2 SD

Prolactin 8.0ng/mL

My biggest concern is, of course, the Estradiol followed by the Hemocrit and Hemoglobin. As soon as I saw that number I started an AI (just half a pill so far) but I don’t yet show signs of gyno, nor do I have acne, hair loss and so on. But I’m very afraid of gyno.

So how to proceed? Mast is impossible to find right now but I have two vials of Primo on hand. I was thinking of dialing back the test a bit and using some Primo in the hope it will moderate the E2. I don’t want to stop the HCG. The issue is when I need more Primo it will also hard to find but I would have some time.

Is this a reasonable approach? If so, what is a good primo to test ratio / doses? Anything else to consider?

How long will it take the E2 to come down to a reasonable level?

My GF and I are going hiking / biking in Utah in June and we have some sailing races starting in January, so I need my fitness back!

Thanks!

 

[TheDuderino85]

The general consensus is to run it 1:1. I would maybe start at 2:1 and titrate it up from there if you are unsure how your body will react to it.

Im currently on 300T / 300P and 150mg Deca and so far so good. Getting my labs in a few weeks which will give me a better picture if I need to make any changes...etc

 

[Kracken]

Thanks very much for the reply! Yeah I have seen recommendations at 1:1 and 2:1 (test to primo). Earlier today I did 100mg test and 50mg Primo. I inject twice weekly on Monday and Thursday. My thinking was that P is less anabolic than T and I'm not using much T, so I didn't want to reduce the anabolic impact too much.

Also upon reading more, although 100 for the E2 is high, its not ridiculously high. Hopefully 100mg primo (combined with less test) weekly will knock it down to ~50 and still give me some help with recomp.

My priorities right now, in order, are (1) reduce the E2 (2) reduce body fat (3) at least maintain or add a little muscle. Once I'm down to maybe 11% BF I can try a small bulk but I'm not a body builder, so I prefer lean over huge. Also my BP is a little high so I need to get that under control.

I also continue on Reta at 2.5mg weekly. Sounds like a small does but it's been a struggle to eat.

Any fine tuning suggestions for hitting these goals are welcome thanks guys!

 

[TheDuderino85]

Thanks very much for the reply! Yeah I have seen recommendations at 1:1 and 2:1 (test to primo). Earlier today I did 100mg test and 50mg Primo. I inject twice weekly on Monday and Thursday. My thinking was that P is less anabolic than T and I'm not using much T, so I didn't want to reduce the anabolic impact too much.

Also upon reading more, although 100 for the E2 is high, its not ridiculously high. Hopefully 100mg primo (combined with less test) weekly will knock it down to ~50 and still give me some help with recomp.

My priorities right now, in order, are (1) reduce the E2 (2) reduce body fat (3) at least maintain or add a little muscle. Once I'm down to maybe 11% BF I can try a small bulk but I'm not a body builder, so I prefer lean over huge. Also my BP is a little high so I need to get that under control.

I also continue on Reta at 2.5mg weekly. Sounds like a small does but it's been a struggle to eat.

Any fine tuning suggestions for hitting these goals are welcome thanks guys!

Reta is great. I just went up to 3mg today myself!

 

[Alert_Custard]

That hematocrit is very high if you were hydrated at the time of the test.
I would look into bringing that down as a priority.