Been on EQ for 30 weeks. Opinions?la

[Morefyah]

Ok I'll break down the time line to further explain before everyone tears into me.
I'm 44yr blast and cruise. I ran a 20 weeks blast of Test, EQ and Mast. The EQ and Mast were dosed high most of the cycle.
I went into cruise and went on a two week vacation. Came back continued on a cruise dose of Test e @ 200mg week. I still had a lot of EQ left and figured it was probably still in my system even after two weeks. So I started adding 400mg a week to my cruise dose of Test and it's been 10 weeks. I know this is not a real cruise.
I just wanted to give it a go through summer.
I've probably given blood 6 times since I started my cycle with EQ and my last time I donated my hematocrit was 38, which I believe is normal. I feel great! I mountain bike a lot and my endurance is definitely enhanced. I am still vascular as fuck all over my body. Muscle separation is as good if not better then when I was on blast. I'll be getting blood work in a few weeks. I'll post it up.
Anyone else ever do this?

 

[master.on]

Ok I'll break down the time line to further explain before everyone tears into me.
I'm 44yr blast and cruise. I ran a 20 weeks blast of Test, EQ and Mast. The EQ and Mast were dosed high most of the cycle.
I went into cruise and went on a two week vacation. Came back continued on a cruise dose of Test e @ 200mg week. I still had a lot of EQ left and figured it was probably still in my system even after two weeks. So I started adding 400mg a week to my cruise dose of Test and it's been 10 weeks. I know this is not a real cruise.
I just wanted to give it a go through summer.
I've probably given blood 6 times since I started my cycle with EQ and my last time I donated my hematocrit was 38, which I believe is normal. I feel great! I mountain bike a lot and my endurance is definitely enhanced. I am still vascular as fuck all over my body. Muscle separation is as good if not better then when I was on blast. I'll be getting blood work in a few weeks. I'll post it up.
Anyone else ever do this?

Are you still growing while on EQ cruise?

If not, I'm afraid yout body will get used to gear and you'll need to blast to multi-gram amounts in order to grow again.

 

[Morefyah]

Are you still growing while on EQ cruise?

If not, I'm afraid yout body will get used to gear and you'll need to blast to multi-gram amounts in order to grow again.

I'm growing but not gaining a lot of weight.
My strength has stalled since I dropped the test down, but it's more of the look I'm looking for. It's summertime so definitely more of a recomp. The muscles are popping on my back, chest and delts. Even my underdeveloped legs are popping. Though I am hitting them hard 3x week now. I'm still seeing improved striated muscle separation.
Since I dropped the test I'm holding less water and I'm vascular as fuck 24/7 with Visible veins running down my obliques.
I'm guessing I'm about 11 to 12 % bf

 

[Rockclimber]

most people run EQ for 16 to 18 weeks so 20 is not really out of the question. Are you planning to get off soon? I would certainly not count this as a cruise.

 

[Morefyah]

most people run EQ for 16 to 18 weeks so 20 is not really out of the question. Are you planning to get off soon? I would certainly not count this as a cruise.

I know 20 weeks is pretty common place.
But I'm at 30 now and I was thinking about running it 8 more weeks. I might up the dose a little then drop the EQ and continue to cruise on 200mg of test e for 8 more weeks. Then I'll probably go on blast again.
So in reality I'll only be running a cruise dose of test for 26 weeks between blasts.
Oh, with a little EQ sprinkled in.
I'm ashamed of myself!

 

[Demondosage]

I'd look at the rule of diminishing returns here. If you're not changing much (or at all) then it's time to drop it. I'd say drop it because it's been too long anyways, but I'm speaking as a lifelong gear user and I know how it goes sometimes. At the minimum I'd be switching compounds if it were myself. You could do something like drop the EQ and then cruise on 30-40mg/day of anavar and 200/wk test and you may get more results than the continued EQ simply from the compound switch

 

[Morefyah]

Thanks for your response man.
I think I have reached the point of diminishing returns as far as strength goes. I do believe the EQ has helped me keep more of my size and weight gains from my blast. I also believe it has helped increase recovery time and endurance better than when on standard a cruise. Your right it's time to let it go.
I definitely going to finish the vial though.
Probably 3 more weeks.
I'm going to miss the vascularity!

 

[Oregongearhead]

Thanks for your response man.
I think I have reached the point of diminishing returns as far as strength goes. I do believe the EQ has helped me keep more of my size and weight gains from my blast. I also believe it has helped increase recovery time and endurance better than when on standard a cruise. Your right it's time to let it go.
I definitely going to finish the vial though.
Probably 3 more weeks.
I'm going to miss the vascularity!

Dont need EQ to stay veiny , just keep your bodyfat low !...

 

[Wunderpus]

I'd drop it, 30 weeks is a long ass time... You may still get SOME results, but why tax your system and raise your RBC unnecessarily? Take some time off completely, as you've been on cycle for a fucking long time man...

 

[Apexvallen]

I see nothing particularly wrong with it. If your RBC is normal, well thats its most dangerous major side effect gone.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Ok I'll break down the time line to further explain before everyone tears into me.
I'm 44yr blast and cruise. I ran a 20 weeks blast of Test, EQ and Mast. The EQ and Mast were dosed high most of the cycle.
I went into cruise and went on a two week vacation. Came back continued on a cruise dose of Test e @ 200mg week. I still had a lot of EQ left and figured it was probably still in my system even after two weeks. So I started adding 400mg a week to my cruise dose of Test and it's been 10 weeks. I know this is not a real cruise.
I just wanted to give it a go through summer.
I've probably given blood 6 times since I started my cycle with EQ and my last time I donated my hematocrit was 38, which I believe is normal. I feel great! I mountain bike a lot and my endurance is definitely enhanced. I am still vascular as fuck all over my body. Muscle separation is as good if not better then when I was on blast. I'll be getting blood work in a few weeks. I'll post it up.
Anyone else ever do this?

I'd drop it, 30 weeks is a long ass time... You may still get SOME results, but why tax your system and raise your RBC unnecessarily? Take some time off completely, as you've been on cycle for a fucking long time man...

30 weeks on ? Its Breaktime !!

 

[Big_paul]

Have you had your HCT checked?

 

[Morefyah]

Have you had your HCT checked?

Yes I donated three weeks ago.
It was 38 which is in normal range.
I'm not positive but my diet is not crazy high in iron because I'm vegan and don't eat meat, dairy or eggs. I also drink 1 1/2 gallons of water a day. I also supplent with green tea extract which is suppose to lower hemo levels.

 

[Big_paul]

Yes I donated three weeks ago.
It was 38 which is in normal range.
I'm not positive but my diet is not crazy high in iron because I'm vegan and don't eat meat, dairy or eggs. I also drink 1 1/2 gallons of water a day. I also supplent with green tea extract which is suppose to lower hemo levels.

Keep an eye on things bro. Hct is nomal but on the low end of the spectrum. Eat veggies that contain iron.

I'm getting close to vegetarian.

 

[jJjburton]

I know 20 weeks is pretty common place.
But I'm at 30 now and I was thinking about running it 8 more weeks. I might up the dose a little then drop the EQ and continue to cruise on 200mg of test e for 8 more weeks. Then I'll probably go on blast again.
So in reality I'll only be running a cruise dose of test for 26 weeks between blasts.
Oh, with a little EQ sprinkled in.
I'm ashamed of myself!

Your fine for running it like that year round man. You do not develop a tolerance to EQ so the same dose will do the same thing. Master.on was wrong about that. I say do it year round.

 

[Wunderpus]

Your fine for running it like that year round man. You do not develop a tolerance to EQ so the same dose will do the same thing. Master.on was wrong about that. I say do it year round.

I really can't imagine how running any AAS on a blast year round would possibly be a good idea. There are consequences to our actions, and I can tell you from firsthand experience they do reduce in overall effectiveness the longer you run them.

Option A: Switch compounds every 12-16 weeks
Option B: Come off completely and blast periodically

Option B is certainly "safer" in many ways... But, arguably, may have less results. Maybe not? But, for 99.9% of people, it's not worth the risk of year-round blasting. There's just no argument that heightened exogenous hormone at this level, one requiring blood withdrawal, is "healthy" for long periods of time.

Think.

 

[jJjburton]

I really can't imagine how running any AAS on a blast year round would possibly be a good idea. There are consequences to our actions, and I can tell you from firsthand experience they do reduce in overall effectiveness the longer you run them.

Option A: Switch compounds every 12-16 weeks
Option B: Come off completely and blast periodically

Option B is certainly "safer" in many ways... But, arguably, may have less results. Maybe not? But, for 99.9% of people, it's not worth the risk of year-round blasting. There's just no argument that heightened exogenous hormone at this level, one requiring blood withdrawal, is "healthy" for long periods of time.

Think.

there is this guy that runs 300 mg deca and 200 mg test year round. He is healthy as can be. Besides having chrones.

running 300 mg of EQ along with an TRT dose is honestly fine in my book. If bloods are good and your making progress then fine. Deca gets prescriced for patients at art clinics to take year around... EQ is the same shit.

 

[jJjburton]

I really can't imagine how running any AAS on a blast year round would possibly be a good idea. There are consequences to our actions, and I can tell you from firsthand experience they do reduce in overall effectiveness the longer you run them.

Option A: Switch compounds every 12-16 weeks
Option B: Come off completely and blast periodically

Option B is certainly "safer" in many ways... But, arguably, may have less results. Maybe not? But, for 99.9% of people, it's not worth the risk of year-round blasting. There's just no argument that heightened exogenous hormone at this level, one requiring blood withdrawal, is "healthy" for long periods of time.

Think.

EQ at 12-16 weeks is short. But I understand where you are going with this. This is a harm reduction site. I forgot.

 

[Wunderpus]

there is this guy that runs 300 mg deca and 200 mg test year round. He is healthy as can be. Besides having chrones.

running 300 mg of EQ along with an TRT dose is honestly fine in my book. If bloods are good and your making progress then fine. Deca gets prescriced for patients at art clinics to take year around... EQ is the same shit.

But EQ is NOT the same "shit".... EQ has never been used pharmacologically for humans, deca has. He may be "fine", but he is taking an unnecessary risk for little to no gains. You're always better tapering up, then dropping the anabolic.... taking time off.... then blasting again.... there's no way around that.

 

[Wunderpus]

EQ at 12-16 weeks is short. But I understand where you are going with this. This is a harm reduction site. I forgot.

If you frontload EQ, 12-16 weeks is more than enough. Remember it'll be in your blood for awhile after your last pin, anyway.