Beginner Tren Enan Cycle

[Alphamale23]

whats up guys,
right now im running 500mg/wk sust and finishing with 50mg winny. but for future reference what would be a good beginner cycle with tren enanthate. i was going to do a tren ace/prop, but i hear that tren/test enanthate is a killer cycle as well....with less injects. what doses etc would be best if ive never used tren?

 

[granby140]

500 test week/400tren week

 

[Alphamale23]

yeah that sounds about right....with 2 injects per week right

 

[NorthStarLabs]

I would stick to Tren Ace IMO if its your first time. Tren can have serious side effect on some bro's and should you find this is the case with you Tren Ace is out of your system in a few days compaired to a couple of weeks with Tren E.


Peace,

NSL.

 

[Tiki]

I would stick to Tren Ace IMO if its your first time. Tren can have serious side effect on some bro's and should you find this is the case with you Tren Ace is out of your system in a few days compaired to a couple of weeks with Tren E.


Peace,

NSL.

NSL is giving very good advice.

 

[singmanr]

I would stick to Tren Ace IMO if its your first time. Tren can have serious side effect on some bro's and should you find this is the case with you Tren Ace is out of your system in a few days compaired to a couple of weeks with Tren E.


Peace,

NSL.

On the otherhand, many recent posts by meso bros and "a friend's" experience (tren virgin, too) would indicate that some of the more negative side effects aren't as prominent in tren enanthate..

 

[Alphamale23]

so would a tren ace/prop cycle be better for leaner gains and for a beginner than a tren enan/test enan cycle?

 

[Starkraven]

so would a tren ace/prop cycle be better for leaner gains and for a beginner than a tren enan/test enan cycle?

its the same exact cycle dude. the enan will just take longer to kick.

 

[Alphamale23]

wouldnt i get much less bloat with the prop

 

[Starkraven]

test is test. why would you get much less bloat with prop? actually the enan esters are better since they build up very stable blood levels. most people that cycle use anti-e's so when they say they see less bloat with prop, they're probably cutting. reducing carbs will give you much less bloat.

stick with test at 500mg with nolvadex 10mg and/or .25mg arimidex eod/ed for 10 weeks. you arent ready to stack tren yet. its real strong stuff and not intended for beginner cycles because you need to learn how your body reacts to gear (like test) before stacking. (and i see that you are currently finishing sust/winny) try test/dbol before a test/tren. good luck.

 

[Alphamale23]

cool good advice man. i was going to do test/dbol but after doing oral winny this cycle i think i want to give my liver a break

 

[Starkraven]

if you want to give your liver a break, i would have to say a good next cycle should be test/eq. test 500-750mg per week and eq 400-600mg per week. 20mg nolva ed. good luck.

 

[big gig]

wouldnt 20mg nolva ed be a bit over kill? different people react differently. jm2cents.

 

[wolfman]

wouldnt 20mg nolva ed be a bit over kill? different people react differently. jm2cents.

I think most people would agree that 20mgs nolvadex is a reasonable amount for 750mgs. test and 400mgs. eq. Better to be on the safe side than to get gyno.

-wolfman

 

[rtlltj]

could someone run a low dosage tren enthanate cycle like 500 test and only say 250-300 tren ethan.

 

[Starkraven]

could someone run a low dosage tren enthanate cycle like 500 test and only say 250-300 tren ethan.

sure. there was actually a member here who was using 500 test enanthate and 250mg tren enanthate and stated he didnt think he needed anything else.

as for the nolva, 20mg is not a high dose at all. for the amount of test, i think it is a reasonable dose. of course i would add 50mg proviron with that.

 

[singmanr]

could someone run a low dosage tren enthanate cycle like 500 test and only say 250-300 tren ethan.

Easily. Make sure your diet is *bang on* and you'll get better results than most everyone who use too much gear to compensate for their lack of understanding of the most anabolic agent--food.