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Beefy
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I've tried 6-oxo and vitrix (tribulus). Both broke me out, but I could feel a noticable rise in aggression and my work outs improved. I just followed the recommended doses and used them at the same time. I've heard 1-ad is worth trying if you're ready to buy a couple hundred and eat 10 a day. In my opinion prohormones are too expensive, and compared to gear-you get none of the results with some/all of the sides.
freedomfighter
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I don't understand. Natural Test elevation means you are trying to boost the bodies production of Test. For that some Tribulus formula, like Bio-Test's Tribex 500, would do it. Prohormones boost the Test levels with an external input. It 3 days you will no longer be able to get these legally. Methyl 1 - Test is suppossed to be good. Its methylated to avoid first pass destruction in the liver. So it does tax the liver.
Freedomfighter
Freedomfighter
ive taken methyl 1 test by legalgear and it gave me nothing but bloody noses. all day long, everytime i moved to fast or sneedzed or scratched my nose it would bleed, it bled through every workout i did. i had no gains at all, then my friend who is a doctor ran a test on it and it came up as chalk.
im on 6-oxo right now and i like it alot. noticable aggression and break out more plus better workouts. its been a week and im up 8lbs, but that could be the creatine.
im on 6-oxo right now and i like it alot. noticable aggression and break out more plus better workouts. its been a week and im up 8lbs, but that could be the creatine.
Beefy
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It's the creatine, bro. 6-oxo is a good natural test booster, but like remo said, it's not a pro hormone or steroid; so it won't be that potent. What kind of creatine are you using?jd62 said:
JD yeah one friend of mine had trouble with m1t too, had the same problems, bloody noses n shit, but also 2 other of my buddies took it and had great results..so it depends on ur body..others can use it with no horrific side effects and others may suffer..jus go with the one that actually gives u results..it doesnt have to b a PH, Anavol is great, ive taken it and got great results..bench increased, squats increased and my whole body jus felt "bigger".. it pretty much gets u stronger and helps u build mass..all it is, is suped up creatine..try it out..if u have any other questions about supplements lemme know buddy..
freedomfighter
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Hey there's a JD that hangs out at CuttingEdge. Used to hang here a long time ago. I know you're not him, but seeing those initials brings back some pleasant memories.
You know those bloody noses sound like High Blood Pressure. This could have been caused by elevated Estrogen levels. If M 1 T aromatises thats the answer to that. Did you suffer from any bloat?
Freedomfighter
You know those bloody noses sound like High Blood Pressure. This could have been caused by elevated Estrogen levels. If M 1 T aromatises thats the answer to that. Did you suffer from any bloat?
Freedomfighter
freedomfighter
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I know your not him cause he won't mess with prohormones or prosteroids. He also researches like a beaver builds dams. Check out Cuttingedge sometime. They go way over my head. Maybe you should try some syrum creatine. You only have to take it on days you work out. No loading. Its sublingual. I'll get the URL where you can get it. Its on sale right now. Be right back.
Freedomfighter
Freedomfighter
freedomfighter
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http://www.musclesurf.com/atpadcreatse.html?ipsrc=media&reftype=em&sptype=MS010905
Thats Musclesurf's site. Lotsa good stuff on sale.
Freedomfighter
Thats Musclesurf's site. Lotsa good stuff on sale.
Freedomfighter
Beefy said:
Do not take 1,000mg of 1-ad that would be waaaaay too much
.M1T will put on size fast but is absolutely terrible for your hdl levels and liver values. It is not a ph but a steroid and should be treated like d-bol, i.e. proper pct, blood work ect. It does not aromatize but post cycle is hard since it shuts you down in 2-3 days. The other sides, i.e. HBP and extreme fatigue are killer. The stuff is rat poison and I would stay well away from it.
MikeHeavypecs
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I totally agree. I took M1T and had GREAT size results (about 10 "lasting" lbs of muscle). HOWEVER, my liver enzymes shot to AST 178 (should be 1-40) and ALT 308 (should be 0-40).....!! Cholestrol LDL 212.....
Mike
Mike
AcuDoc said:Do not take 1,000mg of 1-ad that would be waaaaay too much
M1T will put on size fast but is absolutely terrible for your hdl levels and liver values. It is not a ph but a steroid and should be treated like d-bol, i.e. proper pct, blood work ect. It does not aromatize but post cycle is hard since it shuts you down in 2-3 days. The other sides, i.e. HBP and extreme fatigue are killer. The stuff is rat poison and I would stay well away from it.
I did injectable 4OHT, 4AD, and burn Free 1-Test, along with Oxanavar orals ....and got great results (gained 12 lbs and lost some fat)....I got them all from H&M Gear and Advanced Life Research Inc (ALRI) so I trust these companies
ALRI has a new anabolic coming out next week called Ergo Max that is 12 times as anabolic as Methyl-Test so I ordered that from http://www.rxbody.com/erg.htm
(best price I could find)
ALRI has a new anabolic coming out next week called Ergo Max that is 12 times as anabolic as Methyl-Test so I ordered that from http://www.rxbody.com/erg.htm
(best price I could find)
Buff Diddy
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tribulus is better than andro
I've had better results with tribulus that any prohormone I've tried. I think someone might have pointed this out but 6-oxo and tribulus aren't prorhormones. I tried a bunch of prohormones before I dropped them and moved on to the real deal. I started with basic adrostendione and dhea. Stay away from dhea it turns into estrogen and made my nips itch. Tried the poppers w/and wo/ cyclodextrin, 1-4diol body spray, 1ad. ergopharm even made an andro nasal spray and lately they've been making them in sterile oil which are obviously made for injection. Andro isn't worth messing with imho.
I've had better results with tribulus that any prohormone I've tried. I think someone might have pointed this out but 6-oxo and tribulus aren't prorhormones. I tried a bunch of prohormones before I dropped them and moved on to the real deal. I started with basic adrostendione and dhea. Stay away from dhea it turns into estrogen and made my nips itch. Tried the poppers w/and wo/ cyclodextrin, 1-4diol body spray, 1ad. ergopharm even made an andro nasal spray and lately they've been making them in sterile oil which are obviously made for injection. Andro isn't worth messing with imho.
BEEFarmer
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methyl 1 test is as good as real Dbol for most people , or, you can make your own injection with powders. I made 4-AD (androstenedione) into an injectable at 200mg/ml and at 3cc per week my test levels increased 1000% in 4 weeks!
no joke. I Have before and after blood tests to prove it.
BTW- as Rick Collins as said, you'll most likely get away with your prohormones for a while since each state has to pass their own "illegal prohormone" laws before they will prosecute you.
I mean, if htey got u for 5-10 other things sure they might tack that on, but if thats the only bad thing you got? hell no. Not worth their time when you can go to court and prove IN THAT STATE, there is no law against it.
no joke. I Have before and after blood tests to prove it.
BTW- as Rick Collins as said, you'll most likely get away with your prohormones for a while since each state has to pass their own "illegal prohormone" laws before they will prosecute you.
I mean, if htey got u for 5-10 other things sure they might tack that on, but if thats the only bad thing you got? hell no. Not worth their time when you can go to court and prove IN THAT STATE, there is no law against it.
Used 1-AD for about 3-4wks, 200-300mg/day, back in March of this yr.
? #'s in all my lifts, about 5-10%/session. TBW (total body weight) ? 10lbs in that time while BF% remained un?(changed). Ate like a horse & trained strong & consistenly so no doubt that was the real reason 4 the gains - 1-AD may have been more pyschosomatic (all in my head).
My ? agression most likely d/t ECA stack.
Never used anything like that (pro ho) b4 - just basic supps (whey & creatine). Concluded it was a "safe" way 2 "test the waters" while researching gear (prior 2 its use).
Given the co$t of pro ho, questionable benefits and (now) illegal status, gear would be the only real alternative/addition to enhancing a great diet & consistent workout program (after careful research of course).
? #'s in all my lifts, about 5-10%/session. TBW (total body weight) ? 10lbs in that time while BF% remained un?(changed). Ate like a horse & trained strong & consistenly so no doubt that was the real reason 4 the gains - 1-AD may have been more pyschosomatic (all in my head).
My ? agression most likely d/t ECA stack.
Never used anything like that (pro ho) b4 - just basic supps (whey & creatine). Concluded it was a "safe" way 2 "test the waters" while researching gear (prior 2 its use).
Given the co$t of pro ho, questionable benefits and (now) illegal status, gear would be the only real alternative/addition to enhancing a great diet & consistent workout program (after careful research of course).
