Best results: inject twice per half life

[Axl]

Hi,
Take a look at this. Some of us have asked themselves how many times they should inject. This text seems to give the answer to that.

QUOTE:
"Long chain esters of anabolic steroids are not many more times potent than short chain, if indeed they are any more potent at all. Yet in the above study, the undecanoate ester was found to give 3.5 times the effect of the propionate ester. Why?

There is a difference in pharmacokinetics (the time course of the drug in the body). Although the same 1 mg dose is being given in each case, it is either present in the serum of the animal at a relatively high concentration for a relatively short time for the shorter chain esters, or at lower concentration for a longer time for the longer chain esters. This difference can be quite large: the undecanoate ester can be predicted to have a half-life 36 times longer than that of the propionate ester.3

With most drugs, response is not proportional to the dose, but to the log of the dose. Assuming that the dose is well into the effective range, taking the dose does not result in only the result, but in the result.
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This correlates with my observation that anabolic effect of testosterone esters is equal, so long as each is administered reasonably frequently: at least once per half-life, and preferably twice. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) E.g., if testosterone propionate yielding some given amount of testosterone per week is administered daily, or at least every other day, it will give results comparable to testosterone cypionate administered at least once every week, and preferably twice per week, that yields the same amount of testosterone per week.
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Testosterone cypionate has a half-life of 8 days5, the enanthate ester has a half-life of 4 days6, and nandrolone decanoate has a half-life of 8 days7. These figures are only approximate. The difference between these values for cypionate and enanthate probably includes difference attributable to different measuring techniques. The actual difference is probably not more than two days."
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Source:
https://thinksteroids.com/articles/anabolic-steroid-esters/

 

[Axl]

T enanthate half life

According to this link, the half life a T enanthate (Primoteston Depot) is 4,5 days.
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/Datasheet/p/Primotestondepotinj.htm


So this would mean that I would need to inject myself every 4 days with 71,42 mg (= 250 mg / 14days * 4days)??

Can this be right???

 

[Kroms_laugh]

I've always thought that twice per week (monday and thursday) would be optimal for a test only protocol. Someone said back on the sculptedbyiron forums that a twice weekly injection negates the need for hCG.

 

[BigRagu]

injecting 2x a week might be better.......... but if u take out the hcg u wont get teh added benefits of it..............

 

[ENDRO]

I've always thought that twice per week (monday and thursday) would be optimal for a test only protocol. Someone said back on the sculptedbyiron forums that a twice weekly injection negates the need for hCG.

Twice a week in HRT and I think you would run low on injection sites very rapidly. I have done twice a week injections in the past and I do get an increase in sex drive but I dont think it is worth the extra injection compared to using the hcg.

 

[Glaim]

People manage to find injection sights when injecting ED on cycles. Twice a week doesn't seem too terribly difficult. First injection left ass cheek, second injection right ass cheek. Rinse repeat.

 

[Kroms_laugh]

compared to using the hcg.

Absolutely.. but I'm trying to work with this screwhead doctor that doesn't want to use hCG. If only I could get him to visit MesoRX! He was supposed to, but never did.

 

[Weatherlite]

Have you tried lying to the guy? Hey, if it gets you what you need...

Perhaps you could go for the aesthetic approach and tell him you don't like the fact that you have balls the size of marbles.

An alternative (and a real possibility) would be to tell the doc that the boys have shrunk and you are feeling like less of a man and it's affecting your self-esteem and your love life because you no longer feel adequate in bed with such small ejaculations. Adding in HCG would alleviate all of these problems. Even if he's one of the SSRI pushers (anti-depressant) who says that will solve your probs you can counter with a statement that those drugs are known to cause sexual difficulties and mess with brain chemistry but HCG only affects the testicles and only in a positive way.