Biotech Pharmaceuticals Oxandolone - lab test by Janoshik [blind sample]

Den84

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label claim: 10 mg tab
Lab results: 3,09 mg tab

Little preamble:
One of my friend bought some products of this brand from Bulgaria and he used this oxa for 1 month ,30 mg/day stand alone, only for to see if it is good or not. After this month he had no effect, and no change at the physical level, even in the gym the feelings were nil, no icrease of pump and no increase of strength. So we decided to send it to analysis lab.

I already knew this Bulgarian brand (Bulgarian, not Chinese as declared on the label) so I knew the prices of the source, too low prices For retail, to be real, considering also that the packaging is very laborious. all tabs inside blisters and all oil 1 ml/amps...

This preamble only for say that this bad result is what I expected.

As always the Bulgarian producers are scammers! 95% of Bulgarian steroids are bunk or several underdosed! they were born to fuck the next one, and that's it.
 
label claim: 10 mg tab
Lab results: 3,09 mg tab

Little preamble:
One of my friend bought some products of this brand from Bulgaria and he used this oxa for 1 month ,30 mg/day stand alone, only for to see if it is good or not. After this month he had no effect, and no change at the physical level, even in the gym the feelings were nil, no icrease of pump and no increase of strength. So we decided to send it to analysis lab.

I already knew this Bulgarian brand (Bulgarian, not Chinese as declared on the label) so I knew the prices of the source, too low prices For retail, to be real, considering also that the packaging is very laborious. all tabs inside blisters and all oil 1 ml/amps...

This preamble only for say that this bad result is what I expected.

As always the Bulgarian producers are scammers! 95% of Bulgarian steroids are bunk or several underdosed! they were born to fuck the next one, and that's it.

lab report and oxa tested pics
Janoshik doesn't have any credibility, next time use a REAL ACCREDITED lab like
Startseite
Lab4Tox – Laboratorium Badań Toksygologicznych
both of them can test for Oxandrolone
Even if you can only afford half to one third your current Jano tests.

By the way why so many tests from you?
Not even a wealthy pro BBer would get so much gear tested?
What's your VESTED interest in doing so?
 
Janoshik doesn't have any credibility, next time use a REAL ACCREDITED lab like
Startseite
Lab4Tox – Laboratorium Badań Toksygologicznych
both of them can test for Oxandrolone
Even if you can only afford half to one third your current Jano tests.

By the way why so many tests from you?
Not even a wealthy pro BBer would get so much gear tested?
What's your VESTED interest in doing so?
Oh he will never own up to it, but dude has a lot going on behind the scenes.
 
Janoshik doesn't have any credibility, next time use a REAL ACCREDITED lab like
Startseite
Lab4Tox – Laboratorium Badań Toksygologicznych
both of them can test for Oxandrolone
Even if you can only afford half to one third your current Jano tests.

By the way why so many tests from you?
Not even a wealthy pro BBer would get so much gear tested?
What's your VESTED interest in doing so?

knew that sooner or later, you would come to pollute my thread with your bullshit.
If in your opinion jano is not credible, explain to me , how did he guess that was oxa this my blind sample? And how did he guess 8/8 blind sample of titanium gear industry (TGI)

TITANIUM GEAR TESTING RESULTS

I’m waiting your sane answer.

Regarding others tester, you're certainly not the one who can give advice, you've never tested anything from any laboratory, your advice is worth zero. I know better than you, where I have to send the samples.
 
By the way why so many tests from you?
Not even a wealthy pro BBer would get so much gear tested?
What's your VESTED interest in doing so?

Many test ? 3 reports are many ??? how burned are you? I shared only 3 reports, until now, 2 reports of hilma because it is one of my favorite brand, and I want to be sure that it is constant over time, as quality. And this last reports payed my friend to jano, I wrote in the first post that oxa biotech used it , one of my friend. you can not read ?

then, why do you care, as I spend my money? What is your problem if I have some cash for lab tests?
 
knew that sooner or later, you would come to pollute my thread with your bullshit.
If in your opinion jano is not credible, explain to me , how did he guess that was oxa this my blind sample? And how did he guess 8/8 blind sample of titanium gear industry (TGI)

TITANIUM GEAR TESTING RESULTS

I’m waiting your sane answer.

Regarding others tester, you're certainly not the one who can give advice, you've never tested anything from any laboratory, your advice is worth zero. I know better than you, where I have to send the samples.

From my amateur prospective, it's one of three things.

He does the tests using all the machines and dohickeys.
He uses lab max testing and blindly guesses the concentration.
There's mass collusion with everyone that sends samples.

There's really no other way for him to get the results he does.
i really don't believe the last two to be the case, to be honest.
 
From my amateur prospective, it's one of three things.

He does the tests using all the machines and dohickeys.
He uses lab max testing and blindly guesses the concentration.
There's mass collusion with everyone that sends samples.

There's really no other way for him to get the results he does.
i really don't believe the last two to be the case, to be honest.
I’ve come to the same hypotheses and the same conclusion.
 
I'm not sure if I understand your point. do you think janoshik uses labmax / roidtest to guess the molecule, and then he invents the dosage? are you saying this? and are you sure? @T-Bagger @MisterSuperGod

No. Just the opposite. i don't see how he could have the accuracy that he does, unless he's doing legitimate testing.

The other two examples were the only other ways he could possibly test, but those just aren't feasible in the long-term and i think the whole operation would have gone up in smoke by now if either of those examples were true.

As far as i'm concerned, i believe he has the means, knowledge and equipment to perform the tests that he is tasked to do.
 
No. Just the opposite. i don't see how he could have the accuracy that he does, unless he's doing legitimate testing.

The other two examples were the only other ways he could possibly test, but those just aren't feasible in the long-term and i think the whole operation would have gone up in smoke by now if either of those examples were true.

As far as i'm concerned, i believe he has the means, knowledge and equipment to perform the tests that he is tasked to do.
Even if that is the case you can't trust any of his results if even one was faked.
 
That's up to each individual to decide for themselves. If i send him a sample (i never have) then i would obviously have to have some degree of trust, otherwise, what would be the point?
Of course. I don't understand how someone can trust a testing company that has such a terrible history.
 
knew that sooner or later, you would come to pollute my thread with your bullshit.
If in your opinion jano is not credible, explain to me , how did he guess that was oxa this my blind sample? And how did he guess 8/8 blind sample of titanium gear industry (TGI)

TITANIUM GEAR TESTING RESULTS

I’m waiting your sane answer.

Regarding others tester, you're certainly not the one who can give advice, you've never tested anything from any laboratory, your advice is worth zero. I know better than you, where I have to send the samples.
Although I am happy you shared the test results, why the change of heart? After the last one you posted you said you were not posting lab results again. That you do it for yourself not the community. What changed?
 
I'm not sure if I understand your point. do you think janoshik uses labmax / roidtest to guess the molecule, and then he invents the dosage? are you saying this? and are you sure? @T-Bagger @MisterSuperGod

No. Just the opposite. i don't see how he could have the accuracy that he does, unless he's doing legitimate testing.

The other two examples were the only other ways he could possibly test, but those just aren't feasible in the long-term and i think the whole operation would have gone up in smoke by now if either of those examples were true.

As far as i'm concerned, i believe he has the means, knowledge and equipment to perform the tests that he is tasked to do.
Exactly what @MisterSuperGod said
 
No. Just the opposite. i don't see how he could have the accuracy that he does, unless he's doing legitimate testing.

The other two examples were the only other ways he could possibly test, but those just aren't feasible in the long-term and i think the whole operation would have gone up in smoke by now if either of those examples were true.

As far as i'm concerned, i believe he has the means, knowledge and equipment to perform the tests that he is tasked to do.

finally, a member of the forum that reasons, and is possible to make a constructive discussion.

with this analysis, I tested the legitimacy of jano, because we are used to always seeing positive results. this time, however, the product did not work (as opposed to hilma) and my friend, after use, said that it is definitely empty or very underdosed. therefore, this time, the product could not be dosed correctly or overdosed. so, if jano would give me a positive result or an overdose, surely I would have started to doubt about jano. but, instead, the result was very negative, as we thought, after the 30-day cycle.
 
finally, a member of the forum that reasons, and is possible to make a constructive discussion.

with this analysis, I tested the legitimacy of jano, because we are used to always seeing positive results. this time, however, the product did not work (as opposed to hilma) and my friend, after use, said that it is definitely empty or very underdosed. therefore, this time, the product could not be dosed correctly or overdosed. so, if jano would give me a positive result or an overdose, surely I would have started to doubt about jano. but, instead, the result was very negative, as we thought, after the 30-day cycle.
The only things that call his legitimacy into question with me is his experience with @mands and now BOP. He faked numbers on GH and his testing was determined to be wrong with at least one or two samples BOP blindly sent in to him. Human error can always occur as demonstrated with the BOP incidences, but the whole Mands thing has always been a permanent red flag against him when it comes to Meso people, as a collective, not individually.
 
You could test something 3 times at Jano and average them out for the price of a single Simec test. For the average user Simec are just too expensive and too much hassle to use. For the record I've used neither of them but spent a small fortune at SRCS back in the day.
 
The only things that call his legitimacy into question with me is his experience with @mands and now BOP. He faked numbers on GH and his testing was determined to be wrong with at least one or two samples BOP blindly sent in to him. Human error can always occur as demonstrated with the BOP incidences, but the whole Mands thing has always been a permanent red flag against him when it comes to Meso people, as a collective, not individually.

Exactly, the history of Mands was very bad and for this reason I waited many months, before sending the samples to jano, I waited for other reviews and lab tests. jano is here since april 2018 , I sent the first sample in January 2019. in this period I have found numerous positive feed on blind sample, and when the same molecule of the same brand it was first analyzed by jano and then by another tester, the results were congruous. look at these lab tests on tren A, BM pharma, before tested by jano, result was 56 mg tren A and 50 mg test p, then @pharmasource tested the same product at the Chemtox and the result was 53,7 tren A, but they don’t detected test p because this sample wasn’t blind , and Chemtox only searched tren A.
 

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