Blood Work

Duff

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I got my Blood work back today. It's been 9 months since my last pin of a seriously fucked up cycle I ran of Test, Deca, & Anavar. I should have run test only, but I was going entirely off of a friend's advice. I know now this was a huge mistake. I'm looking to run the cycle listed below of Test only, But I want to make sure I get right first. I did not do precycle bloods before so , unfortunately, I don't have much to work off of as far as baselines. I do know that in 2013, my Test was at 648. I don't have anything regarding Estradiol, or Prolactin at that point. At the end of said cycle, my Estradiol was sky high at 142. After my PCT it was at 72 & my Test was at 332. I just got Bloods done last Monday, & my Test is at 361. My E2 is at 77. I know it's possible for it to take longer for my Test to come up, but I can't explain why my E2 would remain so high. My Prolactin is well within the normal range, & My liver values have come down to just above normal. does anyone have any idea why my E2 would remain so high? Could it be that I just naturally run high E2? The reason I do have test numbers from 2013, is that I was concerned about low T at the time, so my doctor ran blood work. Looking back, I think those symptoms could have easily been associated with high E2, but the doc never thought to check that. I have copied & pasted my recent blood work below. Thank you, in advance, for your help.

Week 1-12 Test C (500mg/week)Sunday & Wednesday
Week 11-14 hcg (1,000/week)Monday & Thursday
Week 1-18 aromasin (12.5mg EOD)
Week 15-18 clomid (50/50/25/25) ED
Week 15-18 nolvadex (40/40/20/20) ED

STATS;
38 year old male
5' 11"
208 lbs.
14% BF
Super clean diet
train 5-6 days a week
Been training for 2 1/2 years 6 years before that with 3 years off Trained before that as well, but takes us back to the stone ages
Don't drink

PROLACTIN
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Prolactin 6.6 ng/mL 2.0-18.0

REFERENCE RANGE for Prolactin:
Adult Male: 2.0 - 18.0

Adult Female:
- Non-pregnant 3.0 - 30.0 ng/mL
- Pregnant 10.0 - 209.0 ng/mL
- Postmenopausal 2.0 - 20.0 ng/mL Stages of Puberty (Tanner Stages)

TESTOSTERONE, FREE (DIALYSIS) AND TOTAL
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Testosterone Total 361 ng/dL 250-1100
Testosterone Free 42.3 pg/mL 35.0-155.0
Adult Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Total

Males:
> or = 18 years 250-1100 ng/dL

Females:
> or = 18 years 2-45 ng/dL

Males: Men with clinically significant hypogonadal symptoms and testosterone values repeatedly in the range of the 200-300 ng/dL or less, may benefit from testosterone treatment after adequate risk and benefits counseling.

Pediatric Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Total
Age Males Females
(ng/dL) (ng/dL)

IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON WHO WAS TESTED TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S HEALTH CARE PROVIDER FOR CONSULTATION AND INTERPRETATION OF THE TEST RESULT.


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Results Continued:

**Cord Blood 17-61 16-44
**1-10 days 187 or less 24 or less
**1-3 months 72-344 17 or less
**3-5 months 201 or less 12 or less
**5-7 months 59 or less 13 or less
**7-12 months 16 or less 11 or less
1-5.9 years 5 or less 8 or less
6-7.9 years 25 or less 20 or less
8-10.9 years 42 or less 35 or less
11-11.9 years 260 or less 40 or less
12-13.9 years 420 or less 40 or less
14-17.9 years 1000 or less 40 or less

**Data from J Clin Invest 1974;53:819-828 and J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1973;36:1132-1142.

Pediatric Reference Ranges by Pubertal Stage Testosterone, Total
Tanner Stage Males (ng/dL) Females (ng/dL)
Stage I 5 or less 8 or less
Stage II 167 or less 24 or less
Stage III 21-719 28 or less
Stage IV 25-912 31 or less
Stage V 110-975 33 or less

Total Testosterone was measured by LCMSMS. The LCMSMS method correlates well with our extraction/RIA method.

Adult Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Free
Age Males (pg/mL) Females (pg/mL)
18-69 years 35.0-155.0 0.1-6.4
70-89 years 30.0-135.0 0.2-3.7

Pediatric Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Free
Age Males (pg/mL) Females (pg/mL)
5-9.9 years 5.3 or less 0.2-5.0
10-13.9 years 0.7-52.0 0.1-7.4
14-17.9 years 18.0-111.0 0.5-3.9

Complete BloodITCISouTnHtE(RCEBSCP)ONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON WHO WAS TESTED TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range



WBC 5.8 x10E3/ul 4.5-10.0
RBC 5.3 x10E6/ul 4.5-5.5
Hemoglobin 16.9 gm/dl 14.0-17.5
Hematocrit 47.0 % 42.0-52.0
MCV 88 fl 80-104
MCH 32 Pg 26-36
MCHC 36 % 31-37
Platelet 102 x10E3/ul LOW 150-450
Neutrophil (Seg)% 60.3 % 50.0-70.0
Lymphocyte% 30.6 % 20.0-45.0
Monocyte% 6.8 % 2.0-10.0
Eosinophil% 2.1 % 0.0-6.0
Basophil% 0.2 % 0.0-2.0
RDW-CV

Liver (Hepatic) Panel 12.9 % 11.5-15.0
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Protein 6.8 g/dL 6.0-8.5
Albumin 4.6 g/dL 3.5-5.0
ALT 41 U/L HIGH 0-40
AST 44 U/L HIGH 0-40
Alkaline Phosphatase 74 U/L 30-130
Total Bilirubin 0.7 mg/dL 0.1-1.5
Direct Bilirubin 0.100 mg/dL 0.000-0.400
Indirect Bilirubin

Lipid Panel 0.6 mg/dl 0.1-1.4
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Triglycerides 79 mg/dl 50-150
Cholesterol 127 mg/dL LOW 130-200
HDL 41 mg/dL >40
LDL (calculated) 70 mg/dl <100
Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio) 3.1
Borderline High 150-199 mg/dL
High 200-499 mg/dL
Very High > 500 mg/dL

Risk of CHD: Male Female
Half Average 3.4 3.3
Average 5.0 4.4
Twice Average 9.6 7.1
Thrice Average 24.0 11.0

Estradiol
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Estradiol 77
Expected Range:
Prepubertal Female 2 - 43 pg/ml
Ovulating - Follicular (-12 days) Female 19 - 83 pg/ml
Ovulating - Follicular (-4 days) Female 64 - 183 pg/ml
Ovulating - Midcycle (-1 day) Female 150 - 528 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+2 days) Female 58 - 157 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+6 days) Female 20 - 211 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+12 days) Female 50 - 150 pg/ml
Pregnant - 1st Trimester Female 302 - 6980 pg/ml
Pregnant - 2nITd ISTrTiHmEesRtEerSPONSIBILITY OFeFmTaHleE PE1R0S0O5N W-HO W17A9S80TEpSgT/EmDl TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S



Pregnant - 3rd Trimester Female 4353 - 17600 pg/ml Results Continued:
Postmenopausal Female 32 - 73 pg/ml
Estradiol-6 Male 2 - 54 pg/ml
 
Cycle should look like this:

14 weeks Test E or Cyp 500mg a week
HCG 500iu twice a week
AI taken when needed
PCT Nolva and Clomid 2 weeks after last shot

HCG should be ran the entire cycle.

Aromasin should not be ran during PCT.
 
It's been 9 months and your TT looks like when you finishied pct .
You are not even recover at all.

Assuming your TT was around 600"s back in 2013
I wold expect at least to be in the 500"s now days .
You need to fix that man.

Are you sure your pct was legit ?
 
I got my Blood work back today. It's been 9 months since my last pin of a seriously fucked up cycle I ran of Test, Deca, & Anavar. I should have run test only, but I was going entirely off of a friend's advice. I know now this was a huge mistake. I'm looking to run the cycle listed below of Test only, But I want to make sure I get right first. I did not do precycle bloods before so , unfortunately, I don't have much to work off of as far as baselines. I do know that in 2013, my Test was at 648. I don't have anything regarding Estradiol, or Prolactin at that point. At the end of said cycle, my Estradiol was sky high at 142. After my PCT it was at 72 & my Test was at 332. I just got Bloods done last Monday, & my Test is at 361. My E2 is at 77. I know it's possible for it to take longer for my Test to come up, but I can't explain why my E2 would remain so high. My Prolactin is well within the normal range, & My liver values have come down to just above normal. does anyone have any idea why my E2 would remain so high? Could it be that I just naturally run high E2? The reason I do have test numbers from 2013, is that I was concerned about low T at the time, so my doctor ran blood work. Looking back, I think those symptoms could have easily been associated with high E2, but the doc never thought to check that. I have copied & pasted my recent blood work below. Thank you, in advance, for your help.

Week 1-12 Test C (500mg/week)Sunday & Wednesday
Week 11-14 hcg (1,000/week)Monday & Thursday
Week 1-18 aromasin (12.5mg EOD)
Week 15-18 clomid (50/50/25/25) ED
Week 15-18 nolvadex (40/40/20/20) ED

STATS;
38 year old male
5' 11"
208 lbs.
14% BF
Super clean diet
train 5-6 days a week
Been training for 2 1/2 years 6 years before that with 3 years off Trained before that as well, but takes us back to the stone ages
Don't drink

PROLACTIN
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Prolactin 6.6 ng/mL 2.0-18.0

REFERENCE RANGE for Prolactin:
Adult Male: 2.0 - 18.0

Adult Female:
- Non-pregnant 3.0 - 30.0 ng/mL
- Pregnant 10.0 - 209.0 ng/mL
- Postmenopausal 2.0 - 20.0 ng/mL Stages of Puberty (Tanner Stages)




@ Test Performed By:
Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute
Basel Kashlan M.D., FCAP., Laboratory Director 27027 Tourney Road
Valencia, CA 91355-5386 CLIA #05D0550302

TESTOSTERONE, FREE (DIALYSIS) AND TOTAL
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Testosterone Total 361 ng/dL 250-1100
Testosterone Free 42.3 pg/mL 35.0-155.0
Adult Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Total

Males:
> or = 18 years 250-1100 ng/dL

Females:
> or = 18 years 2-45 ng/dL

Males: Men with clinically significant hypogonadal symptoms and testosterone values repeatedly in the range of the 200-300 ng/dL or less, may benefit from testosterone treatment after adequate risk and benefits counseling.

Pediatric Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Total
Age Males Females
(ng/dL) (ng/dL)

IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON WHO WAS TESTED TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S HEALTH CARE PROVIDER FOR CONSULTATION AND INTERPRETATION OF THE TEST RESULT.
Patient: Bonar, Justin | Accession #: 796894 | 04/10/2017 06:35 am



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Results Continued:

**Cord Blood 17-61 16-44
**1-10 days 187 or less 24 or less
**1-3 months 72-344 17 or less
**3-5 months 201 or less 12 or less
**5-7 months 59 or less 13 or less
**7-12 months 16 or less 11 or less
1-5.9 years 5 or less 8 or less
6-7.9 years 25 or less 20 or less
8-10.9 years 42 or less 35 or less
11-11.9 years 260 or less 40 or less
12-13.9 years 420 or less 40 or less
14-17.9 years 1000 or less 40 or less

**Data from J Clin Invest 1974;53:819-828 and J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1973;36:1132-1142.

Pediatric Reference Ranges by Pubertal Stage Testosterone, Total
Tanner Stage Males (ng/dL) Females (ng/dL)
Stage I 5 or less 8 or less
Stage II 167 or less 24 or less
Stage III 21-719 28 or less
Stage IV 25-912 31 or less
Stage V 110-975 33 or less

Total Testosterone was measured by LCMSMS. The LCMSMS method correlates well with our extraction/RIA method.

Adult Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Free
Age Males (pg/mL) Females (pg/mL)
18-69 years 35.0-155.0 0.1-6.4
70-89 years 30.0-135.0 0.2-3.7

Pediatric Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Free
Age Males (pg/mL) Females (pg/mL)
5-9.9 years 5.3 or less 0.2-5.0
10-13.9 years 0.7-52.0 0.1-7.4
14-17.9 years 18.0-111.0 0.5-3.9
@ Test Performed By:
Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute
Basel Kashlan M.D., FCAP., Laboratory Director 27027 Tourney Road
Valencia, CA 91355-5386 CLIA #05D0550302

Complete BloodITCISouTnHtE(RCEBSCP)ONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON WHO WAS TESTED TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range



WBC 5.8 x10E3/ul 4.5-10.0
RBC 5.3 x10E6/ul 4.5-5.5
Hemoglobin 16.9 gm/dl 14.0-17.5
Hematocrit 47.0 % 42.0-52.0
MCV 88 fl 80-104
MCH 32 Pg 26-36
MCHC 36 % 31-37
Platelet 102 x10E3/ul LOW 150-450
Neutrophil (Seg)% 60.3 % 50.0-70.0
Lymphocyte% 30.6 % 20.0-45.0
Monocyte% 6.8 % 2.0-10.0
Eosinophil% 2.1 % 0.0-6.0
Basophil% 0.2 % 0.0-2.0
RDW-CV

Liver (Hepatic) Panel 12.9 % 11.5-15.0
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Protein 6.8 g/dL 6.0-8.5
Albumin 4.6 g/dL 3.5-5.0
ALT 41 U/L HIGH 0-40
AST 44 U/L HIGH 0-40
Alkaline Phosphatase 74 U/L 30-130
Total Bilirubin 0.7 mg/dL 0.1-1.5
Direct Bilirubin 0.100 mg/dL 0.000-0.400
Indirect Bilirubin

Lipid Panel 0.6 mg/dl 0.1-1.4
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Triglycerides 79 mg/dl 50-150
Cholesterol 127 mg/dL LOW 130-200
HDL 41 mg/dL >40
LDL (calculated) 70 mg/dl <100
Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio) 3.1
Borderline High 150-199 mg/dL
High 200-499 mg/dL
Very High > 500 mg/dL

Risk of CHD: Male Female
Half Average 3.4 3.3
Average 5.0 4.4
Twice Average 9.6 7.1
Thrice Average 24.0 11.0

Estradiol
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Estradiol 77
Expected Range:
Prepubertal Female 2 - 43 pg/ml
Ovulating - Follicular (-12 days) Female 19 - 83 pg/ml
Ovulating - Follicular (-4 days) Female 64 - 183 pg/ml
Ovulating - Midcycle (-1 day) Female 150 - 528 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+2 days) Female 58 - 157 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+6 days) Female 20 - 211 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+12 days) Female 50 - 150 pg/ml
Pregnant - 1st Trimester Female 302 - 6980 pg/ml
Pregnant - 2nITd ISTrTiHmEesRtEerSPONSIBILITY OFeFmTaHleE PE1R0S0O5N W-HO W17A9S80TEpSgT/EmDl TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S



Pregnant - 3rd Trimester Female 4353 - 17600 pg/ml Results Continued:
Postmenopausal Female 32 - 73 pg/ml
Estradiol-6 Male 2 - 54 pg/ml

-Well, your high estradiol is suppressing your endogenous testosterone.
-No, estradiol that high is neither "natural" nor healthy.
-In the absence of other evidence, I doubt you had high estradiol. You don't know better than your doctor.
-You should NOT begin a new cycle with estradiol out-of-range high. You should see an endocrinologist and establish a patient history.

Yet more evidence not to use Deca unless you're on TRT...
 
It's been 9 months and your TT looks like when you finishied pct .
You are not even recover at all.

Assuming your TT was around 600"s back in 2013
I wold expect at least to be in the 500"s now days .
You need to fix that man.

Are you sure your pct was legit ?
Starting to wonder.
 
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