[Bloodwork] AP Test E Follow Up

dmt31

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So here are my follow up bloods to my 3 week bloods. These are 6 weeks or so in. This cycle has been so fucked up with all the garbage gear I've had that it's really frustrating, but whatever. I had a feeling the bloods were going to be shit, so I stopped after this blood draw with AP Test E, and starting running 150mg of MS Prop everyday and also added back in my TRT dose of 160mg once a week. Hopefully the last few weeks of this will be better than what they have been up to this point.

3 Weeks - http://i.imgur.com/EsdpUvC.jpg

6 Weeks - http://imgur.com/HjLrQd9

Forgot to add, these are bloods on 750mg a week, split into 3 doses. Bloods taken 48 hours after last pin.
 
What is that a x3.6 750mg a week and a TT of 2695
Sorry to hear dmt31 no one is going to say those are ok numbers, pure shit.
Thanks for posting maybe save someone else wasting time/money
 
What is that a x3.6 750mg a week and a TT of 2695
Sorry to hear dmt31 no one is going to say those are ok numbers, pure shit.
Thanks for posting maybe save someone else wasting time/money
yeah it's ok. I knew a couple of weeks in that it wasn't good, but i just figured i'd finish out the 6 weeks to get the information to confirm. shit happens.
 
Thanks for posting these brother. Now I know my AP test E is shit. Im going to wait for the HPLC results before I throw them in the garbage.
Saves me from wasting my time but unfortunately I'm going to lose a lot of money dammit. Oh well. Thanks for posting brother. That's life.
On another note I'm sorry about your cycle getting all screwed up brother, unfortunately I know how you feel. Keep your head up though. Hopefully you'll have better luck next time. [emoji20]
 
Thanks for posting these brother. Now I know my AP test E is shit. Im going to wait for the HPLC results before I throw them in the garbage.
Saves me from wasting my time but unfortunately I'm going to lose a lot of money dammit. Oh well. Thanks for posting brother. That's life.
On another note I'm sorry about your cycle getting all screwed up brother, unfortunately I know how you feel. Keep your head up though. Hopefully you'll have better luck next time. [emoji20]
yeah, i'm done with ugl Test. Only pharma from now on. I have enough watson saved from my trt for at least half a cycle, i'm willing to pay a premium to get a few more vials to run a full cycle.
 
@dmt31
Thanks for the work brother... I'm sorry it's that bad. That sucks but it's good now we have CONCRETE UNBIASED evidence that Alpha Pharma has good packaging to make up for its shit gear....
 
wow that is on 750mg a week :mad:

sorry you did not see better result for your time and money brother.
but very much appreciate the info
big Thanks for posting the numbers
 
Thanks for the contribution @dmt31 . Sorry you had to waste most of your cycle on this garbage but now the community has another strong data point on AP. Thanks again, its appreciated.
 
I posted bloodwork that was from 250mg EW with levels being seemingly too low...given that 750 was used here, that makes these labs confirm suspicions that much more.

Interesting to see what the result of the HPLC is...
 
I tought AP had premium shit? This is really depressing, one thing I dont understand is why would a lab ruin their reputation like that? From what I understood raw test powder is pretty cheap no?
 
It appears even though raws are cheap, if it's unknown in purity, the lab may be underdosing brewing it by weight without even knowing it. Or they may be outright fucking you...
 
I tought AP had premium shit? This is really depressing, one thing I dont understand is why would a lab ruin their reputation like that? From what I understood raw test powder is pretty cheap no?

I've wondered the exact same thing, as I've previously written on here. Why the fuck would they do everything BUT the quantity right? Cutting the VERY wrong corners!!

Hopefully the HPLC will tell us just how much TE there actually is in an amp.
 
I tought AP had premium shit? This is really depressing, one thing I dont understand is why would a lab ruin their reputation like that? From what I understood raw test powder is pretty cheap no?

my same thoughts. They already have an established operation, equipment, source of raws, resellers, and customer base... why the fuak cut corners!?!? would make much more sense to produce a stellar product and then you would have more demand than what you could ever produce for as long as you would like to make money. instead, these places sneak out a little extra cash in the short run and then everyone catches on and is done with the brand.

I was a chemist (degree, real lab, millions of dollars of equipment) for years before I had to leave due to health issues. It is not that hard to use a separatory funnel to wash out the inorganics such as metal ions into an aqueous layer then drain off the orgnaic (where your product would be) evaporate that down. Next recrystallize the material to remove other impurities. This would give a very pure starting material. IF it was a big enough operation they could even go as far as to set-up big (couple inch diameter) column chromatograhy before the recrystalization and collect only the desired fraction (part of the solution with what you want in it).

Dedicate a room as a clean-room. make sure air does not flow into the room anywhere uncontrolled. The controled air source should have a filter on it (easy) and put a few cheap ionic or physical filters in the room (what do they cost, like less than $100?). Dedicated bench tops that are only used as a station for a specific step in the process (no sharing the space to cook your breakfast or take a bath like some ghetto meth-lab). One could even lay down sheets of big aluminum foil that has been whipped with alcohol to work on, and then throw it away after the days work so it is always a fresh sterile surface and less of a chance of cross contamination from the bench-top.

Wash glass wares with soap and water, water rinse, then acetone or alcohol rinse. Bake the glassware in an oven before using. Autoclave vials and stoppers. Heat oils to a temp that kills microbes but dose not damage the oil, use BA, use a .22 filter (don't be cheap or lazy...a little extra effort and time will equal a superior product and a good name). Wear a hair cap, fresh gloves, a clean dedicated lab-coat, and mask in the clean room. Change into clean-room uniform right before entering the room and store said cloths in a locker right next to the door to the room so no one wears the clean-cloths around other places and picks up contaminants (really not expensive or difficult to stay clean, these "labs" are just lazy).

We are not talking anything very high-tech or expensive here and it would get us to the 98%+ purity and clean/sterile. Then just don't be a cheap fuak!--actually dose the brew accurate to what is going to be printed on the label.
Guarantee with a super pure high quality accurately dosed product the lab could charge accordingly and have more demand then they could possibly fill once word gets around regarding the experience of end users.

It is so disappointing and a waste that shit is not done right--do it right and steroids won't have such a bad name because the target compounds are not that bad; it is the bullshit other problems from wrong dosing and impurities or not sterile that makes it scary.
 
my same thoughts. They already have an established operation, equipment, source of raws, resellers, and customer base... why the fuak cut corners!?!? would make much more sense to produce a stellar product and then you would have more demand than what you could ever produce for as long as you would like to make money. instead, these places sneak out a little extra cash in the short run and then everyone catches on and is done with the brand.

I was a chemist (degree, real lab, millions of dollars of equipment) for years before I had to leave due to health issues. It is not that hard to use a separatory funnel to wash out the inorganics such as metal ions into an aqueous layer then drain off the orgnaic (where your product would be) evaporate that down. Next recrystallize the material to remove other impurities. This would give a very pure starting material. IF it was a big enough operation they could even go as far as to set-up big (couple inch diameter) column chromatograhy before the recrystalization and collect only the desired fraction (part of the solution with what you want in it).

Dedicate a room as a clean-room. make sure air does not flow into the room anywhere uncontrolled. The controled air source should have a filter on it (easy) and put a few cheap ionic or physical filters in the room (what do they cost, like less than $100?). Dedicated bench tops that are only used as a station for a specific step in the process (no sharing the space to cook your breakfast or take a bath like some ghetto meth-lab). One could even lay down sheets of big aluminum foil that has been whipped with alcohol to work on, and then throw it away after the days work so it is always a fresh sterile surface and less of a chance of cross contamination from the bench-top.

Wash glass wares with soap and water, water rinse, then acetone or alcohol rinse. Bake the glassware in an oven before using. Autoclave vials and stoppers. Heat oils to a temp that kills microbes but dose not damage the oil, use BA, use a .22 filter (don't be cheap or lazy...a little extra effort and time will equal a superior product and a good name). Wear a hair cap, fresh gloves, a clean dedicated lab-coat, and mask in the clean room. Change into clean-room uniform right before entering the room and store said cloths in a locker right next to the door to the room so no one wears the clean-cloths around other places and picks up contaminants (really not expensive or difficult to stay clean, these "labs" are just lazy).

We are not talking anything very high-tech or expensive here and it would get us to the 98%+ purity and clean/sterile. Then just don't be a cheap fuak!--actually dose the brew accurate to what is going to be printed on the label.
Guarantee with a super pure high quality accurately dosed product the lab could charge accordingly and have more demand then they could possibly fill once word gets around regarding the experience of end users.

It is so disappointing and a waste that shit is not done right--do it right and steroids won't have such a bad name because the target compounds are not that bad; it is the bullshit other problems from wrong dosing and impurities or not sterile that makes it scary.

Heisenberg, is that you?
 
So here are my follow up bloods to my 3 week bloods. These are 6 weeks or so in. This cycle has been so fucked up with all the garbage gear I've had that it's really frustrating, but whatever. I had a feeling the bloods were going to be shit, so I stopped after this blood draw with AP Test E, and starting running 150mg of MS Prop everyday and also added back in my TRT dose of 160mg once a week. Hopefully the last few weeks of this will be better than what they have been up to this point.

3 Weeks - http://i.imgur.com/EsdpUvC.jpg

6 Weeks - http://imgur.com/HjLrQd9

Forgot to add, these are bloods on 750mg a week, split into 3 doses. Bloods taken 48 hours after last pin.
Hey out of curiosity, when we're ur alpha pharm products bought? N I'm sorry to see this, I just lost alot of money. Hg from here out for me. It will cost me double the $ but at least I know what I'm getting.
 
Hey out of curiosity, when we're ur alpha pharm products bought? N I'm sorry to see this, I just lost alot of money. Hg from here out for me. It will cost me double the $ but at least I know what I'm getting.
I can't remember when I ordered, i think in the mid november range of time.
 
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