cabergoline

[5millionbucks]

So I'm looking at studies right now and it shows that it increase LH/FSH and test naturally with people with high prolactin levels. Here is the study;

Six Months of Treatment with Cabergoline Restores Sexual Potency in Hyperprolactinemic Males: An Open Longitudinal Study Monitoring Nocturnal Penile Tumescence

 

[Old]

A drug that "increase LH/FSH and test naturally"??? Think it through

High prolactin from tumors suppresses T (via LH/FSH) due to inhibited GnRH. Cabergoline treats these tumors. That is what this study is about.

Does very little for healthy people. If you take cabergoline, you crash prolactin. For some, that messes up sexual function. For most, body hair and nails will grow faster. And lots of side effects.

All who take the drug for extended time risk permanent heart valve damage. Replacing a heart valve make a coronary bypass operation a walk in the park.

Read the side effects. Much safer to increase T unnaturally

 

[5millionbucks]

A drug that "increase LH/FSH and test naturally"??? Think it through

High prolactin from tumors suppresses T (via LH/FSH) due to inhibited GnRH. Cabergoline treats these tumors. That is what this study is about.

Does very little for healthy people. If you take cabergoline, you crash prolactin. For some, that messes up sexual function. For most, body hair and nails will grow faster. And lots of side effects.

All who take the drug for extended time risk permanent heart valve damage. Replacing a heart valve make a coronary bypass operation a walk in the park.

Read the side effects. Much safer to increase T unnaturally

Yeah its weird; this is what my endo recommended me since my t levels have crashed for increasing t levels rather than trt and hcg at first. Reason being my prolactin levels are high on paper; but when I got an MRI done; there really was nothing wrong with it; just shows high prolactin levels when I get my bloods done; no tumor or anything.

 

[The Terminator]

Didn’t you say in another thread that you were taking tbol, was this during tbol use or before?

 

[5millionbucks]

Didn’t you say in another thread that you were taking tbol, was this during tbol use or before?

yes; I knew that my levels would of been low if my hcg was bunk; so I was expecting my endo to recommend hcg or trt but she put me on caber cause of my past high prolactin levels on bloodwork.

 

[Old]

Yeah its weird; this is what my endo recommended me since my t levels have crashed for increasing t levels rather than trt and hcg at first. Reason being my prolactin levels are high on paper; but when I got an MRI done; there really was nothing wrong with it; just shows high prolactin levels when I get my bloods done; no tumor or anything.

Please post you prolactin test results. If they are actually very high, then it would explain your docs concern and you may really need cabergoline. Not everything shows well on an MRI if it is tiny.

Note in the study that micro prolactinoma were producing ~182 iu/l prolactin and macro prolactinoma were ~2019. These numbers are in contrast to people on the forum posting "high prolactin" with values such as 20 - often rattling with fear that their nipples will leak. There is a lot of myth in bro science regarding using cabergoline (although it is possible some receive some symptom benefits to altering dopamine).

The rule on meds is this: There is no such thing as a safe med, but meds can be used safely.

Since you have been using androgens, that may have given you higher than normal readings. If your readings are above 100, then probably your doc is right. (Does he know of your androgen use?). If you truly need cabergoline, then it can be used safely. Most prolactinoma can be sucessfully treated with 3mg/wk for 2 years. Only a few need it for lifetime and at that dose, even lifetime use would make heart valve fibrosis unlikely.

Another rule with cabergoline (or any ergot): Never under any circumstances use an SSRI, SNRI or serotonin increasing medication.

 

[5millionbucks]

Please post you prolactin test results. If they are actually very high, then it would explain your docs concern and you may really need cabergoline. Not everything shows well on an MRI if it is tiny.

Note in the study that micro prolactinoma were producing ~182 iu/l prolactin and macro prolactinoma were ~2019. These numbers are in contrast to people on the forum posting "high prolactin" with values such as 20 - often rattling with fear that their nipples will leak. There is a lot of myth in bro science regarding using cabergoline (although it is possible some receive some symptom benefits to altering dopamine).

The rule on meds is this: There is no such thing as a safe med, but meds can be used safely.

Since you have been using androgens, that may have given you higher than normal readings. If your readings are above 100, then probably your doc is right. (Does he know of your androgen use?). If you truly need cabergoline, then it can be used safely. Most prolactinoma can be sucessfully treated with 3mg/wk for 2 years. Only a few need it for lifetime and at that dose, even lifetime use would make heart valve fibrosis unlikely.

Another rule with cabergoline (or any ergot): Never under any circumstances use an SSRI, SNRI or serotonin increasing medication.

Prolactin serum level are at 49 ng/ml those are pre level; and on androgen the same. It's just how my blood test reads; and the MRI showed that I dont have prolactinoma or a pituitary tumor. So I don't understand my endo's reasoning; she should of just prescribed me some HCG or TRT. I would of used them both for my next cycle or something.

 

[The Terminator]

Yea i don’t think that level is anywhere close to Hyperprolactinaemia levels. Not sure if it’ll help much if the tbol raised your levels. You’d probably have much better luck getting trt + hCG from a trt clinic. Not sure how common it is for non trt clinic drs, whether they’re specialists or not to rx hCG with trt.

 

[Old]

Prolactin serum level are at 49 ng/ml those are pre level; and on androgen the same. It's just how my blood test reads; and the MRI showed that I dont have prolactinoma or a pituitary tumor. So I don't understand my endo's reasoning; she should of just prescribed me some HCG or TRT. I would of used them both for my next cycle or something.

Don't know about androgens raising prolactin that much. Others with similar experience would need to chime in here.

Cabergoline is the main protocol for hyperprolactinaemia and your levels are notably high even though no confirmed prolactinoma. She may feel that one is just starting to develop, and if so, it makes sense to treat now.
The other option is to repeat prolactin blood test every 3 months for a a while and see if it keeps rising. As far as her prescribing hCG or TRT, she is already looking at something that lowers T that should be addressed first. What are your T, LH, FSH, etc. ?

This might be a good time for Dr Jim or Scally to render advise.

 

[5millionbucks]

Don't know about androgens raising prolactin that much. Others with similar experience would need to chime in here.

Cabergoline is the main protocol for hyperprolactinaemia and your levels are notably high even though no confirmed prolactinoma. She may feel that one is just starting to develop, and if so, it makes sense to treat now.
The other option is to repeat prolactin blood test every 3 months for a a while and see if it keeps rising. As far as her prescribing hCG or TRT, she is already looking at something that lowers T that should be addressed first. What are your T, LH, FSH, etc. ?

This might be a good time for Dr Jim or Scally to render advise.

I mean I knew that turinabol was going to bring my levels this low; I was expecting my doc to at least recommend TRT or HCG. I know when I get on pct my levels will jump back, I was just questioning why some docs would prescribe this shit rather than just plain old HCG or TRT. Maybe I should of saw a urologist instead.

 

[ハカク]

is cabergoline absolutely necessary when running tren ?

 

[carlosvaquez2001]

is cabergoline absolutely necessary when running tren ?

I have the same question

 

[canadian mutant]

A drug that "increase LH/FSH and test naturally"??? Think it through.

Lol. Roast of the year candidate right here