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Can you still bulk while on a glp-1?
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glpfun
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Maybe with reta where there isn’t as pronounced appetite suppression, but it’s pretty hard to eat. I dropped my tirz dose recently cause I was struggling to hit my macros on a pretty heavy deficit. I personally would prioritize the reversal of insulin/metabolic issues over bulking.
What do you mean by that last part? Do you mean like taking medication for it like metformin or?
glpfun
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The glp1 agonist drugs can “reverse” diabetes and improve insulin sensitivity. I put reverse in quotes because it’s more like putting it into remission unless certain lifestyle changes are made.
so you mean like you would try to lose as much weight as you can and bulk later sort of thing?
glpfun
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Yes lose weight and get your A1C down so you’re not diabetic anymore. Bulking shouldn’t be anywhere in your near term roadmap. Diabetes can kill you after a lot of suffering first, you need to prioritize that.
AlexDavis43
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Are you very lean? Lean with type 2 diabetes? I'd still be wary of bulking because there's still ectopic fat, like in your liver.
I'd definitely working on resolving the T2 before considering a bulk. And then, still be mindful of glycemic parameters because the predisposition will always be there.
dick_starbuck
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Let's say someone had type 2 diabetes... why on earth would you consider "bulking" in the first place???
Reverse your diabetes and fix your metabolic syndrome first. This should be obvious. If you "bulk" right now you'll just get fat...
Why bulk anyway? Just eat in a slight caloric surplus and slowly gain weight. You put on way too much fat "bulking".
Reverse your diabetes and fix your metabolic syndrome first. This should be obvious. If you "bulk" right now you'll just get fat...
Why bulk anyway? Just eat in a slight caloric surplus and slowly gain weight. You put on way too much fat "bulking".
Agree with this. At most do 5% above maintenance cals. But really get your diabetes in check
Agreed. Whats the point of wanting to grow when your body cannot really grow given the shit Insulin Sensitivity and Glucose levels and that usually also comes with shit lipids or other issues blood pressure, nafd.... and so on.
Gotta finish one project before moving to starting 3 new ones.
so you're saying that the bad insulin sensitivity will prevent a bulking cycle from building lean mass?
Not a medical expert but in my own experience it will slow down you progress MASSIVELY. I'd say by at least 50-60%, blasting more gear wont help either.
Every time i made major weightloss and improvement in my hba1c and homa index all i needed was caloric maintenance and i still got stronger and muscles felt more fuller, better pumps and well being overall.
Read what Insulin does and why in BB people love combining GH and Insulin and the whole cycle of it, it is very insightful and insulin sensitivity is such an underrated yet extremely important point people always forget!
You can put on muscle while on tirz I just think you need to redefine bulking. You won’t feel good getting the calories in to put on a few pounds a week but then again why bother as it’s not going to be muscle but you can definitely still eat enough to put on muscle while staying lean on tirz.
Haven’t tried the others but I hear sema is hard to do it with
Haven’t tried the others but I hear sema is hard to do it with
glpfun
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You can put on muscle while on tirz- ok
But then again why bother as it’s not going to be muscle - ?
But you can definitely still eat enough to put on muscle - ?????
Well that was a rollercoaster of terrible advice, we’re all dumber for your contribution, thank you
I think some folks can effectively bulk on Tirz and Reta by doing some force feeding. But eating a good amount of food actually makes me sick on Sema.
Not trying to hijack your thread but Ghoul never answered me so I will just ask everyone else who uses glp drugs in peptide form.
Do you guys vigorously shake your reconstituted Sema/Tirz/Reta before injecting?
Or do you swirl it like you do with GH and other fragile peptides?
Not trying to hijack your thread but Ghoul never answered me so I will just ask everyone else who uses glp drugs in peptide form.
Do you guys vigorously shake your reconstituted Sema/Tirz/Reta before injecting?
Or do you swirl it like you do with GH and other fragile peptides?
Ghoul
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Sorry I missed your question.
Never, ever shake any peptide vigorously. Period, Without question, anything that creates turbulence, bubbles, or foam harms peptides. Some significantly and quickly, others are more durable, but it damages them all.
Gentle rolling in your hands if necessary to reconstitute. But if it's not quickly dissolving, stick it in the fridge and leave it alone for a while. Time is just as, probably more, effective than agitation.
Even if it goes clear quickly, it's good practice to leave it for another 5 minutes. The limits of vision only go down to 100um sized particles. Peptides are thousands of times smaller than that, so you can't "see" whether they've fully rehydrated.
I can elaborate if you like, but I'm 100% certain of this,
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