Carb back loading?

[CdnGuy]

Reading on carb back loading and eating most of you're carbs at night. Also inquiring on eating right before bed. Are there noticeable benefits it has on helping to spike your morning insulin levels ? Any info greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[Docd187123]

There's no/negligible metabolic advantage to timing your carb intake to nighttime. If it helps you perform better the next day at the gym so be it but I prefer spacing them out throughout the day. Unless you're running exogenous insulin or are diabetic there's no need to overthink insulin's role.

 

[CdnGuy]

Thanks Doc. Yeah I generally balance carbs throughout my day always have. Just doing some reading thought I'd bounces the idea's off here.
Edit- solid win tonite

 

[Docd187123]

Thanks Doc. Yeah I generally balance carbs throughout my day always have. Just doing some reading thought I'd bounces the idea's off here.
Edit- solid win tonite

But we're losing ppl to injuries every chance we get lol

 

[Dr JIM]

There's no/negligible metabolic advantage to timing your carb intake to nighttime. If it helps you perform better the next day at the gym so be it but I prefer spacing them out throughout the day. Unless you're running exogenous insulin or are diabetic there's no need to overthink insulin's role.

Actually nocturnal carb loading is to ones DISADVANTAGE.

Primarily bc the metabolic demand for carbs will be diminished and glycogen stores should have been replenished any enhanced glucose load will be converted into FAT via the action of insulin.

But we shouldn't "overthink" insulins role here, right DocNOT, lol!

Oh and the primary reason an AM insulin spike is noted is elevated levels of counter-regulatory hormones GH and cortisol.

 

[ErikR]

Actually nocturnal carb loading is to ones DISADVANTAGE.

Primarily bc the metabolic demand for carbs will be diminished and glycogen stores should have been replenished any enhanced glucose load will be converted into FAT via the action of insulin.

But we shouldn't "overthink" insulins role here, right DocNOT, lol!

Oh and the primary reason an AM insulin spike is noted is elevated levels of counter-regulatory hormones GH and cortisol.

So are you saying that carbs should be consumed during the day rather then at night?

 

[Docd187123]

So are you saying that carbs should be consumed during the day rather then at night?

Jim is on an emotional roller coaster right now bc he was corrected by a simpleton In another thread. What Jim doesn't understand is that carbohydrates rarely get converted to fat via DNL in humans. He's basing his misguided statements, as most who follow this like of thought, based on rat studies. Rats process carbohydrates very differently than humans do.

Furthermore I would challenge him to find any clinically significant changes in body comp from isocaloric diets where one group takes carbs at night and another during another time of the day. He can't though and he just doesn't know it yet.

 

[ergomaniac]

Reading on carb back loading and eating most of you're carbs at night. Also inquiring on eating right before bed. Are there noticeable benefits it has on helping to spike your morning insulin levels ? Any info greatly appreciated. Thanks

the idea behind carb backloading is to enhance insulin sensitivity during the day by eating little or no carbs. not spiking insulin in the morning.

there is no metabolic disadvantage to eating carbs at night and they will not automatically turn to fat. some people have even been know to make "lean gains" with a similar style of eating.

I surfed for just a short time and found an interesting article about both night time carbs and fat, and carb backloading, with a study mentioned that may or may not show clinical significance. im sure somebody will chime in .
http://biolayne.com/nutrition/carbs-at-night-fat-loss-killer-or-imaginary-boogeyman
in the study two groups consumed the same amount of calories, protein, carbs, and fat for six months. the only difference, one group ate the vast majority of their carbs at night (backloading), the other ate them throughout the day. the result, the group that ate their carbs ate night lost more weight anf felt less hungry, among other benefits.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475137
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2011.48/full

take it for what its. there seems to be some conflicting data, not everyone agrees, and it may not work for everyone.

 

[ergomaniac]

heres what looks to be a good article called "is nutrient timing dead? and does when you eat really matter?" with a nice little chart from alan aragon.
precisionnutrition.com/nutrient-timing

to sum it up, for most people nutrient timing is unimportant. if your an athlete or have more ambitious goals, it could make a difference.