Cheating myself using Jino over Nutropin AQ?

[Shockrock3]

Done tons of reading and the general consenus is that you feel more off of 2 I.U. of Nutropin than you do off of 6 I.U. of Jino. That being said...Nutropin is $465 a kit while you can get Jino for $300. Is it really worth the extra $165 per kit (2 kits) or $330 to go with Nutropin? Money is an issue. Thanks

Shock

 

[Fronkthis]

Shock, I have also been doing some reading about this.

I just started jinos as you know and I was wondering the same thing.

If they are both 191 amino acid sequence then they should both be the same.
rHGH is rHGH. So no they shouldnt be better or worse, they should be the same.

However even though I asked einstein about it
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134221278

I think that the Jino may be less potent to all the exposure to heat.
It says on the Jino box that it shouldnt be without refrigeration for over 7 days.

So what im thinking as long as you get your jino from a good source, and it hasnt been through that many hands. Than you should have good HGH.

You never know if the dealer stopped at the groceries on the way to ship your jino, and left them in a hot car.

I just think Nutropin being direct from US perscription has less of a chance of being exposed to heat.


Id like to hear more on this.

Also shock, dont think I forgot about our talk, Im just really putting alot of thought into it. I really want it to work.

 

[jbigdog69]

oK guys

Shock, I have also been doing some reading about this.

I just started jinos as you know and I was wondering the same thing.

If they are both 191 amino acid sequence then they should both be the same.
rHGH is rHGH. So no they shouldnt be better or worse, they should be the same.

However even though I asked einstein about it
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134221278

I think that the Jino may be less potent to all the exposure to heat.
It says on the Jino box that it shouldnt be without refrigeration for over 7 days.

So what im thinking as long as you get your jino from a good source, and it hasnt been through that many hands. Than you should have good HGH.

You never know if the dealer stopped at the groceries on the way to ship your jino, and left them in a hot car.

I just think Nutropin being direct from US perscription has less of a chance of being exposed to heat.


Id like to hear more on this.

Also shock, dont think I forgot about our talk, Im just really putting alot of thought into it. I really want it to work.

I am on your side guys cuz I also got more out of the Gentropin (sides more noticable) than jintropin. It has to be in the chemical makeup of the final product. The jintropin is ok up to 40 dgrees celcius and is said to be good as long as it is not introduced to direct sunlight and or moisture. I think a little degredation occurs but not much. So, I believe it is the final product which makes me think it is less potent.

 

[morepain]

I am on your side guys cuz I also got more out of the Gentropin (sides more noticable) than jintropin. It has to be in the chemical makeup of the final product. The jintropin is ok up to 40 dgrees celcius and is said to be good as long as it is not introduced to direct sunlight and or moisture. I think a little degredation occurs but not much. So, I believe it is the final product which makes me think it is less potent.

My suggestion is to try the AQ bro, there is simply no comparison between the two. There are alot of good guys carrying Jin that i trust once it is in their hands to handle it well, but there is no way they can be sure it made a timely and safe journey to them from China, the chances are slim at best that it is not compromised. In the end THe AQ is cheaper, most guys are finding anything over 1.5- 2 iu's is producing sides similar to 8-10 iu's of Jin. Personally i find at 2 iu's i have a little aching and swelling in the hands and feet but minimal, very similar to what i would get on 6-8 iu's of Jin. My basic feeling once i tried the AQ was that i had wasted a lot of money on imported GH over the years, If i could not get domestic stuff from now on, i would not use GH at all.

 

[jbigdog69]

I can get a pretty good price on this HGH (lithuenia, somatotropine). Anyone know if it compares??

 

[01dragonslayer]

My suggestion is to try the AQ bro, there is simply no comparison between the two. There are alot of good guys carrying Jin that i trust once it is in their hands to handle it well, but there is no way they can be sure it made a timely and safe journey to them from China, the chances are slim at best that it is not compromised. In the end THe AQ is cheaper, most guys are finding anything over 1.5- 2 iu's is producing sides similar to 8-10 iu's of Jin. Personally i find at 2 iu's i have a little aching and swelling in the hands and feet but minimal, very similar to what i would get on 6-8 iu's of Jin. My basic feeling once i tried the AQ was that i had wasted a lot of money on imported GH over the years, If i could not get domestic stuff from now on, i would not use GH at all.

I'm considering using the AQ along with some slin for an upcoming bridge. I still have some concerns on its use and storage.
1. Since its already in its lipho'ed form....is refrigeration needed 24/7?
2. Twice daily shots as with other GH?
3. Hows it packaged?

Also, what were your results in gains with LBM and drop in BF? How long did you cycle it and at what dose? Did you cycle anything along with it?

Thx......ds

 

[Hypertrophiac]

i have a question too. if you use 1.5ius of Nutropin AQ on a 5 days on/2 days off schedule then a 90 iu kit will last you 12 weeks. If i remember correctly i was told that it came in a single 90iu bottle. Will that bottle last 12 weeks after reconstitution???? if so, how???

does BioEdge ever read this section of the board?

 

[morepain]

i have a question too. if you use 1.5ius of Nutropin AQ on a 5 days on/2 days off schedule then a 90 iu kit will last you 12 weeks. If i remember correctly i was told that it came in a single 90iu bottle. Will that bottle last 12 weeks after reconstitution???? if so, how???

does BioEdge ever read this section of the board?

(3) 30 IU VIALS ALREADY IN LIQUID FORM, must be kept cold at all times, they are shipped in cooler with cold packs.

So at 1.5 iu's per day thats 45 iu's per 30 days or 60 days per kit. The package insert states that the bottle once opened should be used within 30 days i believe, i will have to check that to be sure.

 

[01dragonslayer]

(3) 30 IU VIALS ALREADY IN LIQUID FORM, must be kept cold at all times, they are shipped in cooler with cold packs.

So at 1.5 iu's per day thats 45 iu's per 30 days or 60 days per kit. The package insert states that the bottle once opened should be used within 30 days i believe, i will have to check that to be sure.

Hey bro...curious as to your results. Can you take some time and reply to my thread. Thx.......ds

 

[supwiz]

I'm starting to use saizen from a US pharmacy now, was using jino's before. I'll let you know what I think is working better. I'm also interested in the nutropin AQ as well. Is it possible to find a good source? The saizen is a bit expensive at 150.00 per 15 iu's-we'll soon find out if it's with it. Greg B.

 

[moralanimal]

I was talking with another member of this board who realy seems to have his shit together. He saw labs of people on a bunch of different brands of GH and claims that there was no real difference. Some of the labs were from people on brands out of china. I guess it really comes down to trying it and seeing what happens. On a related note- I am really have some good luck with Kexing (IMO better then Jino) - the only problem is I get red lumps that make it look like I was bitten by a huge mosquito that was on gear.

 

[zaarel2]

(3) 30 IU VIALS ALREADY IN LIQUID FORM, must be kept cold at all times, they are shipped in cooler with cold packs.

So at 1.5 iu's per day thats 45 iu's per 30 days or 60 days per kit. The package insert states that the bottle once opened should be used within 30 days i believe, i will have to check that to be sure.

When I was reading the package insert I also noticed that part about 30 days after it was opened. I dont understand at all why that would be if its kept refrigerated unless it has something to do with exposure to air? Perhaps because its a vacuum until you inject air the first time you use? I really would like to understand this better..would also like to understand even what they mean by open as because I am a dumbass I did pop the green top on two but have only used one of them...surely popping the green top cant have any effect????

I also noticed it says to bring to room temp and swirl gently. I get the swirl part but dont understand at all bringing it to room temp. I would think the contiual cycle of room temp to frig would be bad......I draw mine ASAP when I remove from frig. Anyone have thoughts on any of this. I want to make sure I get the max outta it.

 

[jbigdog69]

sup bro

When I was reading the package insert I also noticed that part about 30 days after it was opened. I dont understand at all why that would be if its kept refrigerated unless it has something to do with exposure to air? Perhaps because its a vacuum until you inject air the first time you use? I really would like to understand this better..would also like to understand even what they mean by open as because I am a dumbass I did pop the green top on two but have only used one of them...surely popping the green top cant have any effect????

I also noticed it says to bring to room temp and swirl gently. I get the swirl part but dont understand at all bringing it to room temp. I would think the contiual cycle of room temp to frig would be bad......I draw mine ASAP when I remove from frig. Anyone have thoughts on any of this. I want to make sure I get the max outta it.

The actual compound comes in lypholized powder as you know. Once it is mixed and water is introduced to the powder it begins to go through degradation stages. You can find most of the questions you are askinf by going here... http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/opportunistic/nutropin-aq/index.jsp

 

[zaarel2]

The actual compound comes in lypholized powder as you know. Once it is mixed and water is introduced to the powder it begins to go through degradation stages. You can find most of the questions you are askinf by going here... http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/opportunistic/nutropin-aq/index.jsp

The thing is with AQ its already in solution. That being said the solution is good for well beyond 30 days. For example I think what I have currenty is good till like late next year as far as expiration date. That just makes me wonder why its only good for 30 days after its "opened" It must have something to do with the fact you introduce air as a variable?? I still dont get the whole bring it to room temp thing either.