Clen and T3???

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Confused???

I am planning on doing a 10 week cycle consisting of:

Week 1-10: Tren150/Test prop200 EOD
Week 2-10: Winny 50mg ED
Week 1-?: T3/Clen

I was wondering what the best way to run these two would be? Could I do 3 weeks on clen then 3 weeks on T3 while off of clen. Then I would start clen for 3 more weeks then T3 for 3 more weeks? Do you think this would be good or should I just run T3 throughout the whole cycle and do clen 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off throughout? Also what should I use for PCT? Could i just use nolvadex or do i need HCG also??

 

[Tank01]

id run the clen every other two weeks from start to finish.. you can run the t3 id say from week 5-10

here is a thing by which to figure how to run your t3

39 day cycle (close as it gets to 6 weeks while still keeping normal numbers)...

5% Ramping up : 2 days
40% Maximum : 17 days
55% Ramping down : 24 days


you can extend the ramping down by 3 days if you want to...

after you are done with your t3 cycle make sure you take a kelp pill ed for about 5 weeks or so to help bring your thryoid about.

hope that helps

 

[Tank01]

You also need to use HCG if you are using Tren for that long... Tren is goign to kill your sex drive also... so you might want to consider bumping up the test dose if that is super important to you. I would personaly use Clomid nolva and Ari durring PCT... after you use HCG of course

so HCG for 10 days @ 500-1000iu per day (a lot of people get great results from 500, I usualy do 1000 and im ok)
then follow that up with this:

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva


here is why you should use ARI:

this must be the 8th time Ive posted this.. but once again its stolen from Pheednos post on AR:

Arimidex(or L-dex)
Estrogen is the main inhibitence of restoring HPTA, and AI administration has been shown to increase gonadotrophin concentrations and serum Testosterone by up to 50%. In addition, by adding L-dex, the inhibitence of excess estrogen allows Tamox to work greater at LH stimulation in the begining stages of PCT, since the need to prevent binding in the mammery is lessened by the reduction in estrogen biosynthesis


ok, later dude

 

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So when do i need to start the HCG, the 9th or 10th week? Then I follow the HCG with the adex, clomid, and nolva and how long do I run this (30 days)? Also, do I need to run Adex throughout the cycle? Would 100mcg ED of clen be a good dose to take for 2 weeks on/off? So I can run the T3 6 weeks straight instead of doing like 3 weeks on/off? Thanks for your help.

 

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BUMP for some replies and help.

 

[Tank01]

So when do i need to start the HCG, the 9th or 10th week? Then I follow the HCG with the adex, clomid, and nolva and how long do I run this (30 days)? Also, do I need to run Adex throughout the cycle? Would 100mcg ED of clen be a good dose to take for 2 weeks on/off? So I can run the T3 6 weeks straight instead of doing like 3 weeks on/off? Thanks for your help.

Start HCG as soon as you stop cycle... Durring your 10 days of HCG you need to run Arimidex and Nolvadex as the increase in test in your body will aromatize... after that follow the protocol I gave you. the second phase of your PCT should last 30 days ... day 1 is the first day after you stop HCG. YOu should run adex and nolva durring the cylce because you are using a test product... the tren and winny wont aromatize but the test will so thats why you need it. Id also take nolva in a low dose of 20-40mg ed but thats just me... im paranoid about getting gyno again. Some will say either one ... I say both... block estrogen at the receptor and block its creation at the Aromatase enzyme. For the clen you will have to find out for yourself... I usualy run 120mcg ed for 2 weeks with no problem... it will just be what you can handle... start by taking 2 tabs the first day... two more the second day.. then maybe 1 or 2 more the 3rd day... I wouldnt hop straight into your full dose as its kinda like slaming your foot on the gas pedel of your car when its at a complete stop... id slowly go into it. the t3 you should run for 6 weeks... NO ABRUBT STOPS... your thyroid is very delicate and you need to respect that fact... if you comit to a cycle of t3 then comit to it... once you start... if you have to stop.. you must taper... im not saying your thyroid will crash if you dont.. but you run a high risk of that happening... and so as a rule of thumb you need to taper... I dont think 3 weeks on 3 off is a good idea at all... do what I recomended and I think you will be fine... for the first week before you start T3 you need to find your Basal temp... do this by taking your temp first thing in the morning for a week... take an avg of the week.. this is your basal temp... then monitor your temp each morning... or every other morning... or when you increase your doseage so you can see how your temp is responding... the OPTIMUM range for fat burning is between 98 and 98.8 degrees F. So if I were you, once you are in that range stop increaseing the doseage as any increase past that will probobly result in catabolism of lean body mass. When you reach that temp, that is your max dose you should run.

Ok, I hope that helps bro

later