Clomid Causes Men to Cry

[Relliot]

Hello everyone,

I have been lurking these forums for about a month now. I am a 32 year old who has started to struggle with low testosterone. I never did any cycles in my lifetime, but I tested below 200 ng/dl (205-781) on both tests. The doctor has me on Clomid (25mg every day) to see if that will help restart my natural production, but I don't feel like any of my symptoms have improved (3 weeks out) besides having better pumps in the gym. I was curious how others benefited from clomid and found some interesting posts. It seems many of the guys here blame clomid for making them moody/crying, easily agitated, and some other side effects I was not aware of. Is this really the clomids fault or just normal PCT symptoms from having low test and high estrogen? I would assume once a PCT starts, all that extra test will be converting into estrogen while our body slowly begins creating testosterone on its own which would cause those side affects described.

Enough about clomid, I have been lifting on and off since I was 17, but for three years now, I can barely motivate myself to get up an go to work, no muscle gains, fatigued all the time and brain fog. If TRT is right for me, I plan on running some cycles once I get my dosing correct and I figured maybe I should introduce myself here and get to know some of you guys.

 

[guyzcool]

Hello everyone,

I have been lurking these forums for about a month now. I am a 32 year old who has started to struggle with low testosterone. I never did any cycles in my lifetime, but I tested below 200 ng/dl (205-781) on both tests. The doctor has me on Clomid (25mg every day) to see if that will help restart my natural production, but I don't feel like any of my symptoms have improved (3 weeks out) besides having better pumps in the gym. I was curious how others benefited from clomid and found some interesting posts. It seems many of the guys here blame clomid for making them moody/crying, easily agitated, and some other side effects I was not aware of. Is this really the clomids fault or just normal PCT symptoms from having low test and high estrogen? I would assume once a PCT starts, all that extra test will be converting into estrogen while our body slowly begins creating testosterone on its own which would cause those side affects described.

Enough about clomid, I have been lifting on and off since I was 17, but for three years now, I can barely motivate myself to get up an go to work, no muscle gains, fatigued all the time and brain fog. If TRT is right for me, I plan on running some cycles once I get my dosing correct and I figured maybe I should introduce myself here and get to know some of you guys.

Well everyone is different some people don't experience the emotional sides of Clomid until 300+mg. Some people have said they get emotional with 100mg. I doubt you'll feel like that on 25 mg.

 

[Relliot]

Well everyone is different some people don't experience the emotional sides of Clomid until 300+mg. Some people have said they get emotional with 100mg. I doubt you'll feel like that on 25 mg.

Thanks for the reply! Ahhh ok, I was on 50 mg ED, but that sent my E2 over 50 so we lowered to 25 mg, I can only imagine 100-300 .

 

[Xlgx]

Been on 50mg clomid 3x week to eod for a while now. Test is up high 600s to high 700s

 

[Relliot]

Been on 50mg clomid 3x week to eod for a while now. Test is up high 600s to high 700s

Did the Clomid help alleviate most of your symptoms of low T? In the middle of the third week here and fatigue is still a big issue for me, at the moment I can only train each muscle group once a week. Do you take any estrogen blocker? High E2?

 

[Xlgx]

Did the Clomid help alleviate most of your symptoms of low T? In the middle of the third week here and fatigue is still a big issue for me, at the moment I can only train each muscle group once a week. Do you take any estrogen blocker? High E2?

It def helped for sure. No AI needed for me as my values tend to be normal.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

FWIW, for me, there are two "tells" that my E2 is running high, and that I need to pop an AI - first, my left ankle swells up, and I get a "crunching" feeling in the skin on the lower part of my left shin - second, I get ridiculously emotional watching movies or TV shows.

 

[Xlgx]

FWIW, for me, there are two "tells" that my E2 is running high, and that I need to pop an AI - first, my left ankle swells up, and I get a "crunching" feeling in the skin on the lower part of my left shin - second, I get ridiculously emotional watching movies or TV shows.

How much clomid are you using?

 

[tenpoundsleft]

How much clomid are you using?

I use Arimidex (anastrozole) now. 0.5mg when it "feels" needed - and my blood work suggest that my "method" works

I also have a stash of Clomid and Tamoxifen. Just in case my method is off.

My point was that it seems to me that the emotional outbursts come from too much E2, which all of the AIs reduce, some slam harder than others.

 

[Relliot]

Going to post my lab results from before starting clomid and after (3 weeks) if anyone is interested.

-- I had elevated AST/ALT enzymes on my first two tests which seems to be coming down (I was very sore from physical training during those tests).
-- Testosterone went up to 729 (348-1197)
-- My biggest concern are the elevated Thyroid levels. TSH & FT3 numbers - I can't find much information on these two being elevated at the same time.
-- Going back to the the Dr. in a week for more tests on the thyroid and check liver enzymes again

If anyone has any idea on those thyroid results, please chime in. I suspect some type of Hypothyroidism, but not sure what's going on yet.

Before Clomid:




3 Weeks On Clomid:

 

[Spooby]

Nice bloods!