Cloudy Tren Ace

magRT496

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Ive been having trouble brewing tren ace for awhile now. When I add the powder it clumps and and sinks to the bottom. I keep the heat low, around 90* and run the magnetic stirrer but it still ends up cloudy. If it let it sit the sediment will fall to the bottom. If I filter it right away it's very slow but will come out clear. However, after a few days of sitting i noticed it gets cloudy towards the bottom and eventually sediment will form. Ive had this issue with a few different batches of material so im wondering if its something I'm doing wrong. Any tips are appreciated.
 
Ive been having trouble brewing tren ace for awhile now. When I add the powder it clumps and and sinks to the bottom. I keep the heat low, around 90* and run the magnetic stirrer but it still ends up cloudy. If it let it sit the sediment will fall to the bottom. If I filter it right away it's very slow but will come out clear. However, after a few days of sitting i noticed it gets cloudy towards the bottom and eventually sediment will form. Ive had this issue with a few different batches of material so im wondering if its something I'm doing wrong. Any tips are appreciated.
90°C or F?

Anytime you take something off a hot plate that is warm and sit on a cold surface this will happen. Leave it on the hot plate until it cools down to 120° F and then add your BA and filter.

Also make sure you're using all USP grade solvents and carrier oils...
 
If you have sediment i would look at your filter as well as the concentration of you ingredients. Post up all your numbers.
 
I just did this with a magnetic stir plate.

1.1% BA 19% BB rest GSO.

Max temp was 40-45 degrees Celsius. Spun for about 40 minutes.

Will report on status
 
Tren should not need heat
A little heat always helps, but keep it very minimal. 45C should be plenty. Use a hot plate with magnetic stirrer, and make sure to get one that has a temperature probe. I also have a calibrated thermometer I use to make sure the hot plate is accurate. This is important if you want to maintain low temperatures. My hot plate broke last time i used it, and will not hold the set temperature.

Get a mortar and pestle and process the raw as fine as possible. Get a porcelain one designed for pharmaceutical use, their cheap. While processing it you should be able to tell if there is moisture present in the raws. If there is moisture present it can be what is causing the cloudiness.

Assuming the raws are dry, fill your beaker with the amount of BB you needed to achieve your desired concentration. Add small portions of your raw and allow it to go into solution before adding more. Once the raws have gone into solution allow it to stir for 20 to 30 minutes, and then slowly add your carrier oil. Allow this to stir for another 20 to 30 minutes. Turn the heat to 35 C and allow to continue stirring, add your BA and allow to stir for 20 to 30 minutes or longer if you choose. Once it has stirred and you feel it's good enough then filter it. I keep it at 35C for filtering.

Keep in mind this can be done without heat, but you increase the time it takes for the raw to go into solution. Heat is not the enemy, over heating is the problem. A lot of raws can be brewed at much lower temperatures than their melting points because we add solvents.
 
How old are the raws?

I ask as I seem to recall many members reporting problems with Tren A raws specifically going cloudy post filtration maybe 3 years ish ago.

@narta - figured you might remember more about this, given your HB experience?
 
Probably not tren a or it has wet raws. Heat is not high enough to cause damage to the filter, unlees we are talking shitty filters or something not compatible with ba/bb (MC/PES)

Personally I don't use alot tren a, maybe brew it once in 2-3 years and that's low volume too.
 
You guys think my tren e crashed because I only used 15% BB?

I noticed this recipe is 19% BB.

Did you find 19% to be the optimal amount for Tren E or do you use this much with most raws?
 
90°C or F?

Anytime you take something off a hot plate that is warm and sit on a cold surface this will happen. Leave it on the hot plate until it cools down to 120° F and then add your BA and filter.

Also make sure you're using all USP grade solvents and carrier oils...
90* F but thank you thanks a good tip.
 
Yea, I guess the recipe I used would help right?

2% Ba 20% Bb

All solvents USP grade. Def wasn't a solvent issue.

Update - i brewed it with 2/20 in GSO. No heat, added Ba/Bb first, turn on mag stirrer and went right into solution. I'm 95% sure it was an issue with the raws. This batch came out fine has been sitting for 5 days with no sediment.
 
You guys think my tren e crashed because I only used 15% BB?

I noticed this recipe is 19% BB.

Did you find 19% to be the optimal amount for Tren E or do you use this much with most raws?
My standard recipe with Tren E is 15% and Ive never had it crash. Might be an issue with the raws for you also.
 
How old are the raws?

I ask as I seem to recall many members reporting problems with Tren A raws specifically going cloudy post filtration maybe 3 years ish ago.

@narta - figured you might remember more about this, given your HB experience?
I believe they were from about 18 months ago. Ive been having more raws issues over the last 2-3 yrs then ever before. Almost never an issue before that. Still uncommon but recently I got bad batch of cyp. Sent it back and got 2 more bad batches. Just gotta watch out for it more than before.
 
I believe they were from about 18 months ago. Ive been having more raws issues over the last 2-3 yrs then ever before. Almost never an issue before that. Still uncommon but recently I got bad batch of cyp. Sent it back and got 2 more bad batches. Just gotta watch out for it more than before.

What's the source?
 
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