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[TheScholarOfBrew]

This is what happens in a shortage.

It's not usually total unavailability.

Prices go up, quality goes down. There's less focus on quality when you're lucky to get anything at all.

Scams become increasingly frequent too.

It'll be interesting to see if the last few years turned out to be the "golden age" underground AAS.

Let's hope that's not the case. Simply create raws that is sufficiently usable and anyone who does will get all the benefits and customer base they could dream of. Its that simple. Everyone wants raws that is within 94% At the bare-minimum ( more is better) why would they risk going lower just to mess up more money? It ain't mathing. Even at a time like this a good raw supplier will be king pin for sure.

 

[Ghoul]

Let's hope that's not the case. Simply create raws that is sufficiently usable and anyone who does will get all the benefits and customer base they could dream of. Its that simple. Everyone wants raws that is within 94% At the bare-minimum ( more is better) why would they risk going lower just to mess up more money? It ain't mathing. Even at a time like this a good raw supplier will be king pin for sure.

I'd guess it might be someone trying their hand at making raws in a lab not on the Chinese authorities radar.

Like anything else, it's takes skill and experience to produce a quality product.

The AAS that are used in pharmaceuticals, like Test Cyp, Sustanon, etc, should be ok since they can "leak" out of factories that are allowed to make them for legit pharma purposes.

China makes something like 80% of drug active ingredients now, most of which are exported to companies that turn them into finished products, and they won't be shut down.

 

[Buffering]

Hi, there's something I don't understand. Is the photo you sent of the packaged raw material Test U? Is it supposed to be the same batch as the colleague who sent it for analysis with 27% purity and that was yellow and sticky? I'm asking because the photo you sent of the raw material looks normal and white. Has it been clarified if it's the same batch? Are they both Test U? I was sent a photo of Test D that looked like that. Obviously, I didn't buy it.

 

[Sampei]

Hola, hay algo que no entiendo. ¿La foto que enviaste de la materia prima envasada es Test U? ¿Se supone que es del mismo lote que el del colega que la envió para análisis con un 27 % de pureza y que estaba amarilla y pegajosa? Pregunto porque la foto que enviaste de la materia prima se ve normal y blanca. ¿Se ha aclarado si es del mismo lote? ¿Ambas son Test U? Me enviaron una foto de Test D que se veía así. Obviamente, no la compré.View attachment 324058

That yellow thing is supposedly test D

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I'd guess it might be someone trying their hand at making raws in a lab not on the Chinese authorities radar.

Like anything else, it's takes skill and experience to produce a quality product.

The AAS that are used in pharmaceuticals, like Test Cyp, Sustanon, etc, should be ok since they can "leak" out of factories that are allowed to make them for legit pharma purposes.

China makes something like 80% of drug active ingredients now, most of which are exported to companies that turn them into finished products, and they won't be shut down.

I'm curious on the concept of creating our own raws in a lab or something that we can MacGyver ourselves, and I've been extensively researching the chemistry to do so.

Pretty much, if someone or one was to make, test base. Successfully. Estefying that base would be much, much easier.

If someone in America figures out how to do this, they literally will be Heisenberg. I already had the recipe for testosterone undeconate after lots of research papers and deep research with chatgpt

And with reasonable certainty, I can get about an 86 to 90% yield with the raw material required to create it after having test base.

Of course that yield and the cost required would require kilograms and kilograms and kilograms and kilograms To break even or create a good profit margin.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

That yellow thing is supposedly test D

Looks like it might be good for cooking as a butter substitute

 

[Ghoul]

I'm curious on the concept of creating our own raws in a lab or something that we can MacGyver ourselves, and I've been extensively researching the chemistry to do so.

Pretty much, if someone or one was to make, test base. Successfully. Estefying that base would be much, much easier.

If someone in America figures out how to do this, they literally will be Heisenberg. I already had the recipe for testosterone undeconate after lots of research papers and deep research with chatgpt

And with reasonable certainty, I can get about an 86 to 90% yield with the raw material required to create it after having test base.

Of course that yield and the cost required would require kilograms and kilograms and kilograms and kilograms To break even or create a good profit margin.

Old school guys used to make runs to Mexico to get steroids. I think if raws could be made in a small clandestine lab that would've been done instead, but who knows. Maybe it's possible with new tech, if the chems needed aren't on the DEA precursor watch list.

Somehow demand will be met, especially if China doesn't get back to it and prices become irresistible to some intrepid chemist.

 

[Bigguy]

Might as well sell sugar labeled as primo and don't refund anyone when they find out.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Old school guys used to make runs to Mexico to get steroids. I think if raws could be made in a small clandestine lab that would've been done instead, but who knows. Maybe it's possible with new tech, if the chems needed aren't on the DEA precursor watch list.

Somehow demand will be met, especially if China doesn't get back to it and prices become irresistible to some intrepid chemist.

I 100% would be the guy to try if given the opportunity to learn the chemistry on hands. I love this shit. Any cartel in Mexico wanna send me off in a bunker and have Me cook glass grade 99% pure primo?

 

[Dirthand]

@Photon and others who ordered test U, please write to me if you want to refund or to take it as credit. It is up to you.

Sorry again for the low purity issue.

25% purity is more than just a low purity issue, that is complete trash and might as well be selling fake raws at this point . What are you doing to ensure that the raws you sell are good material instead of .. well if the customer test them.. So in reality you will sell whatever you get your hands on and take a chance with the health and safety of people lives. Not to mention your price list is almost double of other raw vendors, because you are a "private" "quality " source. You should do better than this shit....

 

[Dirthand]

Well send yours off for testing anyways when you get it. More data people have and the supplier the better. He did mention he covers testing and this will probably give him more leverage to show his supplier that they supplied him shit raws.

It's his mother fucking job to ensure he sells quality product.. Not customers job. What is wrong with your thinking. Man come on.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

25% purity is more than just a low purity issue, that is complete trash and might as well be selling fake raws at this point . What are you doing to ensure that the raws you sell are good material instead of .. well if the customer test them.. So in reality you will sell whatever you get your hands on and take a chance with the health and safety of people lives. Not to mention your price list is almost double of other raw vendors, because you are a "private" "quality " source. You should do better than this shit....

Its pretty damn bad..... Imagine if someone didn't test it. Injected it and got sick and died or worse idk! Sold it to others.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

It's his mother fucking job to ensure he sells quality product.. Not customers job. What is wrong with your thinking. Man come on.

What I meant is I should test it regardless it benefits everyone. I know it's his job. I'm upset at this source. He offered to refund just a bit ago. Hasent gotten back after I sent my bitcoin Addy. That's the only reason I'm not going to write him off just yet. But if he can't give out good raws. We should just move on.

 

[The-Squat]

Hi guys,

To organise some info here, and to the related clients, please write to me for the related solution:

1. Test Base issue:
In the past month, part of the sold test Base should be test Prop, testing reports followed. The total wrongly labeled test base could be around 800g.
----So sorry for your trust and we will work harder to ensure no mislabel issue shit.

2. Test U issue:
Thanks to one client who did Jano analysis on Test U, and the purity cames out at 27%. That's crazy. We never thought it could be such a degraded case, just being stocked for around 8 months. The whole bathc is around 900g.

3. Mast E and Prop issue:
The arrived mast E and Prop comes out as milk. It could not be mast. We wont sell it. And, to work on for a reliable one later. That could takes more time.

The sold stocked goods are not problem. But, all the clients are welcomed to test whatever they bought. The analysis cost can be covered as promised.

Best regards,

Khal

Any issues with Deca these days?

 

[Photon]

@Photon and others who ordered test U, please write to me if you want to refund or to take it as credit. It is up to you.

Sorry again for the low purity issue.

I have reached out for a full refund since there's no ETA on future TestU.

 

[vulpinis]

i guess im going to have to test the test base showing up soon, since it looks like it might be this test p issue. don't want test p. id expect something comped if it turns out wrong.