Coming off after 5 years BnC

[one5onecc]

What am I in for recovery wise? Been blasting and cruising since 2018. Now 30 years old. Pre cycle test levels were 855ngdl in 2017.

Pretty tame relatively speaking, cruise on 140mg blast on 400mg test once per year. Once I did a 12 week 450mg primo blast thrown in and probably 2 40mg anavar cycles per year when im cutting.

Longest I've gone without pinning test is probably 12 days in the last 5 years when I ran out once.

If I suddenly just stop injecting what will happen? Would coming off cold turkey be a nightmare? Would HCG solo suffice? I have 6 weeks before I leave.

Reason is I have to relocate to another country where AAS is highly illegal and would rather just not worry about sourcing etc. Or meeting docs for TRT when I land. I am relocating for work so if coming off means barely being able to get out of bed, anxiety, having skin issues that would be a big problem.

Anecdotally my balls havent shrunk at all since I started and my semen is still the same colour, probably doesn't mean much in terms of how shut down I am?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Dang-1]

Follow the PCT protocol on the forum under:

Comprehensive Guide to PCT​

It covers how you would stop everything now and start your PCT.

6 weeks is damn tight so I would read the whole thing and then order your HCG, Clomid, Nova, ect… right away as you normally have a decent wait for everything to clear before starting Pct. Good luck

 

[Nilatac]

You will not recover in 6 weeks. You might never recover. You are 30 as well.

You need about 3 weeks until your test level go down enough for body to start seeing a problem and give signals to produce some. You can start taking hgc and clomid as today but it won't be effective until the test levels are low enough.

I suggest if you can brind some dbol pills masked as supplements and take 10 mg each day until you go back in your country. That it will be your trt to support feeling normal.


But the good part is after a while you get used to low t levels and it will be bearable. So you will get out on top in one way or another

 

[one5onecc]

Okay since PCTing off in such a short time isnt really possible.

How bad would it be to come off my test for 4-8 weeks while I am getting settled into the new country? Until I sort a doc? Will I feel dead like a zombie riddled with anxiety?

I can't stress how important being able to operate 100% mentally & energy wise is for my job.

 

[Nilatac]

Okay since PCTing off in such a short time isnt really possible.

How bad would it be to come off my test for 4-8 weeks while I am getting settled into the new country? Until I sort a doc? Will I feel dead like a zombie riddled with anxiety?

I can't stress how important being able to operate 100% mentally & energy wise is for my job.

To be fair isn't that bad.
Pin before you leave and if you can get some test u. Like is nebido. Pin how it's prescribed 1000 mg and your level should be somehow normal for a good few weeks until you can get your hands on something.

Pining subq will slow a bit the absorption

When it comes to lifting sucks more than actually live a normal life with a 9-5 desk work and tv after work,shower and sleep.

 

[Big_paul]

What am I in for recovery wise

Nothing good. It's going to be a motherfucker.

 

[ripper908]

For what it's worth I blasted and cruised for 7 years. Went to see my doc and told him I planned on coming off cause we wanted to start baby making. He said to taper down my test by 100 mg week to week until I was at zero. I recovered fine. Went back into the "normal" range in about 3 months. Have normal sex drive and feel 100%. Just have to remember you wont feel like you did on a high test dose. Keep your diet and training up and you should be fine.

I blasted with everything including tren and deca so in theory my body should have been shut down hard

 

[one5onecc]

For what it's worth I blasted and cruised for 7 years. Went to see my doc and told him I planned on coming off cause we wanted to start baby making. He said to taper down my test by 100 mg week to week until I was at zero. I recovered fine. Went back into the "normal" range in about 3 months. Have normal sex drive and feel 100%. Just have to remember you wont feel like you did on a high test dose. Keep your diet and training up and you should be fine.

I blasted with everything including tren and deca so in theory my body should have been shut down hard

That gives me some hope.

What were those 3 months of recovery like?

Ive read all sorts of things like some folks having anxiety, hair shedding, unable to get out of bed etc.

 

[Astartes]

Nothing good. It's going to be a motherfucker.

^ This

I am going to be very honest with you. I tried to come off at 33. 2 1/2 years before test levels recovered 2/3. Never came back online and that was with guidance from a form lifter who is an Endocrinologist. (MD) He flat out told me it was unlikely due to age and length of suppression. Luck brother. Truly

 

[narta]

Hit up some Test Undecanoate before you move, like a bolus 1gr. You will have approximate 8-10 weeks to figure out what to do untill you settle and find an endo there.

 

[Kangaroo_Jack3D]

When I came off a few years back the hardest part that I remember was clomid had me feeling funny and I was prone to some mood swings. It certainly comes with the ups n downs but that's the name of the game when you play with your body's natural hormone regulation.
I wish you the best man!

 

[IrishJuice]

I came off after 5 years. Suffered with anxiety for a month or 2 and some tiredness. that was really it for me.

I was expecting it to be much worse from what I've read on steroid forums online but for me it wasn't bad at all considering I was BnC for 5 years.

Organise a proper PCT and pull the trigger.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

An option is Enclomiphene/ clomid/ torem/ nolva. Get it suspended or pills. You may never come back but it will give you a chance. I've had no problems with substances taken in check in baggage continue the serm when in the other country.

 

[Kangaroo_Jack3D]

An option is Enclomiphene/ clomid/ torem/ nolva. Get it suspended or pills. You may never come back but it will give you a chance. I've had no problems with substances taken in check in baggage continue the serm when in the other country.

Some countries are super strict and may open things up. But I agree with check on luggage 9/10 times. Most times they don't care unless you got an extra 2 or 3 ounces of fucking shampoo an the TSA agent wants to be a dick.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Some countries are super strict and may open things up. But I agree with check on luggage 9/10 times. Most times they don't care unless you got an extra 2 or 3 ounces of fucking shampoo an the TSA agent wants to be a dick.

I'm just putting personal experience. I've gone international to Guatemala, Asia, Thailand, mexico, backpacking in Europe. I've been on trt through it. My "diabetes medication" went with me but ive never been questioned with checkin. Take it for what it is..... never big bottles. You need to look up tsa rules before. I believe it to be 4oz or its a problem iirc

I literally take needles and vials in a container.

 

[sfbizercer]

An option is Enclomiphene/ clomid/ torem/ nolva. Get it suspended or pills. You may never come back but it will give you a chance. I've had no problems with substances taken in check in baggage continue the serm when in the other country.

+1 I've gone international with plenty of grey-area/illegal and similar, if you're really concerned try to hide it in with similar-looking medication(s) and make sure its in your checked luggage for best results IMO. Unless you have a fat ass drum of powder in your carry on its much less likely they'll even know, much less give a shit if they do (I've only had issues with powders, and it was when I had a full container of hundreds of grams of powder in my carryon; it got tested obv).

 

[ripper908]

That gives me some hope.

What were those 3 months of recovery like?

Ive read all sorts of things like some folks having anxiety, hair shedding, unable to get out of bed etc.

I felt ok. I realized what I was doing with my body and tried to keep a positive mindset the entire time and reminded myself why I was getting off. Kept my training and diet in check and everything was ok. Lower sex drive obviously and lost some size but nothing drastic. I think training and diet is more important than gear. Keep those 2 up and you have little to worry about.

I read horror stories online about people coming off and they made it sound like the end of the world but I didnt think it was horrible.

I would go as far as saying that blasting and cruising was pointless and I should have cycled off more often

 

[RiceNKimchi]

I would go as far as saying that blasting and cruising was pointless and I should have cycled off more often

Just think of these teen social media guys doing it for clout. I think in 4 years there will more of the same thought

 

[ripper908]

Just think of these teen social media guys doing it for clout. I think in 4 years there will more of the same thought

Yep. Whether or not you believe them, almost all pros claim they go "off off" for minimum 8 weeks out of the year. And for what it's worth when I lived in southern ontario there was an ifbb pro whos gym I trained at who now competes at the Olympia level (shouldn't be hard to figure out who) and his coach made him cycle off after every show.

 

[one5onecc]

An update on this,

Last shot was 225mg test E Nov 13th, running 225mg every Monday Thursday for 10 weeks prior to that.

Steroidcalc shows my levels to completely bottomed out, is it safe to say im walking around with near zero test? Or is there still a chance I have some lingering.