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[BBrownOrphen]

Sup all. Done alot of reading off an on but need some experienced people to chime in for advice if its required.

Test E 300mg weekly for 10 weeks
Dbol 20mg day for last 4 weeks.
Post 2 weeks nothing

Nolvadex every evening for 4 weeks so a total 6 weeks post. Any Gnc alternatives that work for estrogen blockers recommended? Plan on continuing same cycle all the time. Should i throw in some liver protectant during dbol?

Thanks for any help and advice.

 

[bambam333]

Any stats how old are you?
Must have arimidex or Aromasin on hand and make it pharm grade no research bullshit especially because you don’t know how sensitive you are to aromatizing and your using dbol
Run the test 12 weeks 10 is fine I would do 12 and at 500mg not 300
Also get some Hcg for pct to run before the nolva
Dbol at the end is fine I like to run mine in the beginning while the test is building up but to each their own

 

[bambam333]

As for liver protectant you can use tudca nac and most importantly make sure your water intake is high and there is nothing at gnc for you to waste your money on. I heard about dim but wouldn’t run anything without having Pharm adex or Aromasin in your hand and run accordingly to your sensitivity and bloods

 

[BBrownOrphen]

35 yrs old,5’10”, 200#

Thanks i will be taking your advice I appreciate your time with the assistance and replys.

 

[bambam333]

No problem that’s what we’re here for and just one more piece of advice some people will give an automatic protocol on how to take your anti estrogens but everyone is different I don’t even run one on 500mg of test and another guy might start getting gyno at that dose so read your body and most importantly do blood work and run your dose accordingly the last thing you want is to take too much and crash your e2

 

[BBrownOrphen]

How long would you run the hcg and nolva? Is 6 weeks post too long?

 

[Mastodon]

I’d stick with the test at 300 mg especially if you’ll be running dbol. Less is more in this game and you’ll definitely grow on 500 mg of test. Also only 10 weeks? It’s going to take 6-8 for the test to really start peaking in your system. Push it out to 16 weeks.

 

[bambam333]

I’ve always ran the Hcg for 2 weeks tapering it down followed by the nolva for 4 weeks. Haven’t done a pct in a long time though I’m on trt so things may have changed but I always recovered fine

 

[BBrownOrphen]

I see so keep it on hand do some bloodwork at 12 weeks and plan accordingly. Run the dbol first four weeks of cycle with liver protective and high water intake.

 

[bambam333]

For me at least when running dbol I’ll take .5 adex once or twice a week depending on how much and that works fine for me but everyone is different so you will have to see

 

[BBrownOrphen]

If you eliminated the dbol and ran 300mg weekly for 16 weeks test is 6 week post enough? Im currently getting serious crash in afternoons at 5 weeks running test im trying to eliminate that.

 

[bambam333]

O I didn’t know you already started. IMO yes that’s enough only bloods will tell. And have you ran an ai this last 5 weeks

 

[BBrownOrphen]

I have not ran any Inhibitors. I have not had any sensitivity in the pecs.

 

[bambam333]

Not the only sign of high e2 to be waiting for a tit. For me at 300 I don’t run one but might be a good does getting some bloods and see where your at

 

[BBrownOrphen]

Thanks will do i will post bloods when i get the results.

Appreciate the help greatly.

 

[master.on]

Can you get Primo?
If so, 600-800 mg Primo + 20 mg Dbol can give some nice gains with little side effects.
No need for AIs or SERMs at such a low Dbol dosage.

You can extend Dbol usage to 6-8 weeks.