Critique Tren Cycle

[bigpun]

I am planning on doing a cycle with Tren, Sust, Anavar, and Winny. This will be my 2nd cycle and I am 21 years old. I am 6'4 and 315lbs. I am looking to gain a lot of strength while putting on solid mass. I also want to lose excess fat and I will do this with a strict diet and cardio. This is what my cycle looks like, please comment on it:

Weeks 1-10: Sustanon @ 500mgs a week
Weeks 1-10: Tren @ 150mgs EOD
Weeks 1-4: Winny orals @ 100mg ED
Weeks 8-12: Anavar @ 45mg ED

Please critique this cycle if you have opinions.

 

[Captain Planet]

I would leave out the winny in the begining, it doesn't seem like it would add much effect, plus running two 17-AA steroids in the same cycle doesn't seem very wise. If the tren you are shooting is acetate (which I assume it is), then it needs to be shot ED. Shooting it at 75mg ED will give you the same amount of gear as 150mg EOD, only it will be more effective. Most guys don't run tren for as long as you do, but you will have to see how that works, some guys can handle it. I would up the anavar dossage too. If anything I would leave the A-var off at the end and run winny @ 50mg ED, but thats your call.

-Good luck,
Captain Planet

 

[KTCKSports]

If you already have the Winny, save it until the end of the cycle.

I am planning on doing a cycle with Tren, Sust, Anavar, and Winny. This will be my 2nd cycle and I am 21 years old. I am 6'4 and 315lbs. I am looking to gain a lot of strength while putting on solid mass. I also want to lose excess fat and I will do this with a strict diet and cardio. This is what my cycle looks like, please comment on it:

Weeks 1-10: Sustanon @ 500mgs a week
Weeks 1-10: Tren @ 150mgs EOD
Weeks 1-4: Winny orals @ 100mg ED
Weeks 8-12: Anavar @ 45mg ED

Please critique this cycle if you have opinions.

 

[bigpun]

Why do you say not to run the winny at the beginning of the cycle? Should I run it at the end with the anavar or just by itself?

 

[Deacon]

this is a second cycle? I would just run the sus and the tren and drop the orals - save them for another cycle- the effects of the tren will more than make up for winny and var anyway - plus who needs the joint pain winny gives.

 

[bigpun]

If I wanted to run anavar towards the end of the cycle, how many weeks should I run it to be effective and at what dosage? I wanted to run it at the end to harden up and keep gaining strength.

 

[skywalk]

whats your body fat at? Generally from what i've read, anything over 15% and you will see less gains. 10 weeks of tren is going to be very harsh on your liver. I would do no more than 6 weeks. I would start the tren on week 4-10, and use winny with the tren. What does your PCT and ancillary plan look like?

Skywalk

 

[brooklynheight]

i read that there is no proof that tren is toxic to the liver

 

[Captain Planet]

Tren is not liver toxic, supposodly it affects the kidnets, but I hear this is a myth as well. The main reason people don't run it for very long is that the androgneic sides start to become unbearable, plus the night sweats, etc.

 

[bigpun]

Any other opinions? ^^^

 

[Deacon]

the word is that tren is not liver toxic, does not promote hairloss and only in very rare cases causes gyno - but yet you hear about these things all of the time when tren is mentioned. I have experienced none of these problems - just the night sweats and a little insomnia which was handled with melatonin.
I actually think tren is one of the safer steroids for me to run.