CRP is high

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

I have been using mig840 exclusively for about 5-6 months now and only yesterday tested CRP. I have run full bloods every 3 months for the last year but never checked CRP and it was over 10. Everything else has always been spot on.

I am thinking it could be due to mig840, although I do take dhb which is know to also increase CRP.

I have been blasting 800-900 test, 300-350 DHB, 350 Dbol and 300-350 NPP. Test always mig840 and recently DHB and NPP mig840 too.

Any advice?

I am thinking to cut back to 600 test in GSO, plus 150 NPP GSO for the next month and check CRP again. If improved I will slowly add back DHB in GSO and see how CRP does.

 

[Juicedhead]

Do you take fish oil or any supplements? Curious what lab are you using that uses mig80? I would say switch to GSO and then test again. I would be curious to see if its from the mig80.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

Yes, I do take fish oil and a bunch of different vitamins. I make my own gear. Per Vigorous Steve, mig840 is the devil. I think he is a clown, so I am unsure about mig840. All I know is that my CRP was 10.3 and it scared the living daylights out of me. Everything else has been spot on.

I hate the idea of abandoning mig840 and/or dhb. I injected GSO this morning and I forgot how difficult it is to pin with a 30ga needle.

I will run bloods again in a month and see.

 

[clearheaded]

have you been sick last few months?

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

have you been sick last few months?

not at all

 

[Juicedhead]

10 isnt crazy high but I would go with GSO and get retested and see if thats what it is id be curious to know.

 

[Red-5]

Colchicine is very effective at reducing h-Crp. Mine was significantly elevated and was within mid normal range after 1 month of colchicine at minimum dose. You can get it very reasonably from pct24x7

 

[Eddie.]

Yes, I do take fish oil and a bunch of different vitamins. I make my own gear. Per Vigorous Steve, mig840 is the devil. I think he is a clown, so I am unsure about mig840. All I know is that my CRP was 10.3 and it scared the living daylights out of me. Everything else has been spot on.

I hate the idea of abandoning mig840 and/or dhb. I injected GSO this morning and I forgot how difficult it is to pin with a 30ga needle.

I will run bloods again in a month and see.

Well, he exaggerates in many things and he's being dramatic sometimes but he's right about most he's saying. He has done an extensive research about oils.. I am curious to see how this will go, keep us posted.

 

[Jin23]

I have been using mig840 exclusively for about 5-6 months now and only yesterday tested CRP. I have run full bloods every 3 months for the last year but never checked CRP and it was over 10. Everything else has always been spot on.

I am thinking it could be due to mig840, although I do take dhb which is know to also increase CRP.

I have been blasting 800-900 test, 300-350 DHB, 350 Dbol and 300-350 NPP. Test always mig840 and recently DHB and NPP mig840 too.

Any advice?

I am thinking to cut back to 600 test in GSO, plus 150 NPP GSO for the next month and check CRP again. If improved I will slowly add back DHB in GSO and see how CRP does.

A CRP of 10 is very high (outside of acute illness standards) and you certainly want to reduce. Crp in fact does not have a low end threshold beyond which life expectancy isn't effected, ie. the lower the crp the better. Anything under 0.5 and you're o.k. but going even lower is not without benefits.

With a crp of 10 (I'm speculating) you might have a higher predisposition to inflammation, due to various factors (autoimmunity, obesity, etc ), as with sensitivity's to carrier oils and solvents, in most cases you don't usually see such high elevations.

Again, a crp of 10 is high, lower it. You shouldn't tolerate much more then a 1.5 crp on cycle. You shouldn't tolerate any elevations really ...

Check your ferritin levels, as ferritin gets elevated with high crp. And that's at crp's of 1.5, yet alone 10. A high ferritin also elevates crp, it might be the reason why crp is soo high.

Check your CBC too. If you have funds and is interested, check other inflammatory and immune markers like ANA, DNS, IG's, protein electrophoresis, ESR, etc. so you can determine the underlying nature of your inflammation.

 

[BigTomJ]

I hate the idea of abandoning mig840 and/or dhb. I injected GSO this morning and I forgot how difficult it is to pin with a 30ga needle.

I would scale back your plan to just trt for a while if it were me. there are additional factors that can effect CRP beyond just the token carrier oil and solvents.

as for oil viscosity, have you tried MCT? i run all my gear through 29g insulin pins and it goes fine.

 

[Jin23]

A CRP of 10 is very high (outside of acute illness standards) and you certainly want to reduce. Crp in fact does not have a low end threshold beyond which life expectancy isn't effected, ie. the lower the crp the better. Anything under 0.5 and you're o.k. but going even lower is not without benefits.

With a crp of 10 (I'm speculating) you might have a higher predisposition to inflammation, due to various factors (autoimmunity, obesity, etc ), as with sensitivity's to carrier oils and solvents, in most cases you don't usually see such high elevations.

Again, a crp of 10 is high, lower it. You shouldn't tolerate much more then a 1.5 crp on cycle. You shouldn't tolerate any elevations really ...

Check your ferritin levels, as ferritin gets elevated with high crp. And that's at crp's of 1.5, yet alone 10. A high ferritin also elevates crp, it might be the reason why crp is soo high.

Check your CBC too. If you have funds and is interested, check other inflammatory and immune markers like ANA, DNS, IG's, protein electrophoresis, ESR, etc. so you can determine the underlying nature of your inflammation.

An amendment: ferritin and serum iron can also get crushed due to chronic inflammation, which can lead to anemia (anemia of chronic inflammation/illness). And importantly, much like crp, ferritin is also an acute phase reactant, which means it gets elevated due to inflammation and because of that, it's hard to judge actual intracellular (the H ferritin isomer which has feroxidase capabilities) ferritin stores while suffering a bout of acute inflammation.

 

[Jin23]

I would scale back your plan to just trt for a while if it were me.

I definitely second this. It's very hard to do when you're on cycle and feeling great but it's the right thing to do, especially at a crp of 10.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

I definitely second this. It's very hard to do when you're on cycle and feeling great but it's the right thing to do, especially at a crp of 10.

Thanks for the information. I will go to TRT for the time being and see my PCP, although I won’t be able to tell him about anything other than a TRT dose of test.

 

[Jin23]

Thanks for the information. I will go to TRT for the time being and see my PCP, although I won’t be able to tell him about anything other than a TRT dose of test.

Why don't you post your whole blood panel that you did?

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

Why don't you post your whole blood panel that you did?

I will upload later today or tomorrow. Thanks.