Cruising question

[Lift-to-failure]

So I'm kind of done cycling now and want to cruise on 150mg test 150mg deca and 100 primo. Just wanted to get some opinions on this protocol. I really love deca I just feel much more calm and chill on it and I love the joint relief I get from it. My e2 is out of range on the high side but I don't have any high e2 symptoms so I would like to throw in some primo just to keep the numbers in range. I would like to run this forever basically. My bloodwork looks great other then the high e2 and I live a very healthy lifestyle. Lift 4 days a week and do 1 hour of cardio a day and don't do rec drugs or drink. Thanks.

 

[BabaJagga]

im no expert in this field but thats 400mg of anabolics combined... maybe reduce nandrolone to lowest effective dose for joint support (50-75mg?) and primo also?

idk, sounds high. but personal choice ofc.

 

[Lift-to-failure]

im no expert in this field but thats 400mg of anabolics combined... maybe reduce nandrolone to lowest effective dose for joint support (50-75mg?) and primo also?

idk, sounds high. but personal choice ofc.

Ya I could do something like 150mg test 100mg deca and 50mg primo but how much would 50mg primo even drive down e2. Probably hard to answer without bloodwork. Maybe I'll try to see what my e2 is on 150 test and 150 deca and if it's in range then toss the primo.

 

[BabaJagga]

Ya I could do something like 150mg test 100mg deca and 50mg primo but how much would 50mg primo even drive down e2. Probably hard to answer without bloodwork. Maybe I'll try to see what my e2 is on 150 test and 150 deca and if it's in range then toss the primo.

response to primo as ai looks like very individual reaction.

if it was me, i would start with 50mg of primo and do bloods after 4 weeks to see where my estrogen sits at. review dosing after this.

with nandrolone, idk. for me its not worth even trying with risk of neuro and cardio damage but thats me. also i would use lowest effective dose for that joint support, from reading this forum, i see people have this benefit from 50-75mg/weekly dose, no reason to go higher doses and cause more stress.

like that you end uo around 250mg anabolic load which, long term, sounds probably better than 400.

 

[1Megaman]

With the price of primo I wouldn’t even waste using it at 50mg for e2 control. Save the primo for an actual cycle that you will benefit from.

 

[ackmack78]

Forget the primo just use some ai. Probably would only need 0.5mg 2x a week max of arimidex at 200mg of test

 

[Lift-to-failure]

Forget the primo just use some ai. Probably would only need 0.5mg 2x a week max of arimidex at 200mg of test

I was thinking that as well but can you run arimidex for extended periods of time without health consequences? Like I'm talking years? If I can I would rather run that instead of primo I just thought it would be a little bit healthier to run primo rather then arimidex. Thanks.

 

[BabaJagga]

I was thinking that as well but can you run arimidex for extended periods of time without health consequences? Like I'm talking years? Thanks.

i dont think it will have bigger impact than primo.

 

[Lift-to-failure]

i dont think it will have bigger impact than primo.

Okay good to know thank you very much.

 

[Ateam2023]

Ya I could do something like 150mg test 100mg deca and 50mg primo but how much would 50mg primo even drive down e2. Probably hard to answer without bloodwork. Maybe I'll try to see what my e2 is on 150 test and 150 deca and if it's in range then toss the primo.

likely 50 mg of primo would not do much for managing e2, bloodwork is the only way to know for sure, as you mentioned,,

 

[The Answ3r]

If you’re not experiencing any high e2 symptoms and you feel great, then there’s really no reason to lower it.

Being at the high end of the reference range or even slightly above is totally fine as long as you’re not dealing with water retention, mood swings, or other issues.

The fear around estradiol is often overblown - it plays an important role in health, and chasing “perfect” numbers on paper can sometimes do more harm than good.

As for Primo, at low doses it likely won’t have a big impact on e2.

If you’re looking for a long-term “test + something” setup, a small dose of EQ (100–120mg every 10 days) can help keep e2 in check - just based on personal experience.
Might not be the most common protocol, but it worked well for me.