Cutting with Salbutamol, T4, Metformin

aet63

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Hi,

First of all sorry for my English :)
I want to make little cutting cycle without AAS.

So, i search many things on internet and 3 components took my attention.

My plan is doing 8 week cutting cycle with these 3 components.

1-8 week Salbutamol (Ventolin) 4 mg x 2 times ED (4 mg on first week)
1-8 week T4 (Levotiron) 100 mcg x 2 times ED (50 mcg x 2 days, 100 mcg x 2 days, 150 mcg x 2 days on first week)
1-8 week Metformin (Matofin XR) 500 mg x 2 times ED (500 mg on first week)


I will also use B12 supplement. I read some post about Metformin reduces B12 at body and people that use Metformin should use B12 supplement. I will use product named Benexol that has 250 mg B1 / 250 mg B6 / 1 mg B12.

Salbutamol usage : I will use 1 pill after lunch, 1 as pre-workout. There will be 6 hours between them.
T4 usage : I will use 1 pill after meal that between breakfast and lunch, 1 pill as preworkout with Ventolin at the same time.
Metformin usage : I will use 1 pill after breakfast, 1 pill after workout with protein shake.

My Questions:
1-) First of all, usage of these three components together is correct ? If it's correct, is there something wrong with dosage that i planned ?
2-) Is my usage correct as i described above ? I want to be sure my timing to take pills in day is correct.
3-) I read some posts about using T3 affects negatively your natural T3 production on body but T4 doesn't. I choose to use T4 because of this.Is it correct ?
4-) I read some posts about Avandia is better choice for same purpose with Matofin XR(Metformin). Is it correct ? What is difference between them ?
5-) I read on some websites that mention metformin has negative effect on androgen receptors and relatively testosterone. Is it true ? Can anyone provide link of research or link from relaible website ?
6-) Should i take T4 after or before meals ? Some people says T4 is more effective when it is taken before meals.

My Stats :
Age : 27
Weight : 79 KG
Height : 176 CM
Body Fat : %15
Training History : 3 years (2 years continuously)
TDEE : 1858,4 kcal (According to 66 + (13,7*Weight)+(5*Height)-(6,8*Age) formula)

I'm also very happy with my diet plan. But i want to lose weight and fat fast than now.

Thanks a lot in advance :)
 
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Hi,

First of all sorry for my English :)
I want to make little cutting cycle without AAS.

So, i search many things on internet and 3 components took my attention.

My plan is doing 8 week cutting cycle with these 3 components.

1-8 week Salbutamol (Ventolin) 4 mg x 2 times ED (4 mg on first week)
1-8 week T4 (Levotiron) 100 mcg x 2 times ED (50 mcg x 2 days, 100 mcg x 2 days, 150 mcg x 2 days on first week)
1-8 week Metformin (Matofin XR) 500 mg x 2 times ED (500 mg on first week)


I will also use B12 supplement. I read some post about Metformin reduces B12 at body and people that use Metformin should use B12 supplement. I will use product named Benexol that has 250 mg B1 / 250 mg B6 / 1 mg B12.

Salbutamol usage : I will use 1 pill after lunch, 1 as pre-workout. There will be 6 hours between them.
T4 usage : I will use 1 pill after meal that between breakfast and lunch, 1 pill as preworkout with Ventolin at the same time.
Metformin usage : I will use 1 pill after breakfast, 1 pill after workout with protein shake.

My Questions:
1-) First of all, usage of these three components together is correct ? If it's correct, is there something wrong with dosage that i planned ?
2-) Is my usage correct as i described above ? I want to be sure my timing to take pills in day is correct.
3-) I read some posts about using T3 affects negatively your natural T3 production on body but T4 doesn't. I choose to use T4 because of this.Is it correct ?
4-) I read some posts about Avandia is better choice for same purpose with Matofin XR(Metformin). Is it correct ? What is difference between them ?
5-) I read on some websites that mention metformin has negative effect on androgen receptors and relatively testosterone. Is it true ? Can anyone provide link of research or link from relaible website ?
6-) Should i take T4 after or before meals ? Some people says T4 is more effective when it is taken before meals.

My Stats :
Age : 27
Weight : 79 KG
Height : 176 CM
Body Fat : %15
Training History : 3 years (2 years continuously)
TDEE : 1858,4 kcal (According to 66 + (13,7*Weight)+(5*Height)-(6,8*Age) formula)

I'm also very happy with my diet plan. But i want to lose weight and fat fast than now.

Thanks a lot in advance :)

I don't know much of anything about salbutamol and metformin... but without AAS I wouldn't use t4 (or t3). Especially at your low dose, alll that will happen is your thyroid will slowly stop producing and you will be running a simple therapeutic dose.
 
I will not use metformin and T4.

I read a lot of things about Metformin that it decreases testosterone production. That's why i don't want to use it. If i make steroid cycle in next months, i will use it in that cycle.

I will also not use T4 because of its catabolic effect on body.

I will take 8 mg Salbutamol ED (I can increase dose at last weeks) and Ketotifen 1 mg ED.

I read that Ketotifen refreshs beta2 receptors and these receptors used by Salbutamol and Clenbuterol. I will use it 1 mg ED. Is this usage true ?
 
I'm interested in metformin myself. Did you get a script from your doctor, or ordered it from somewhere?

In my country, we can take it from pharmacy very easily without a prescription. If you take it with prescription you can buy it cheaper, if you can't have prescription you need to pay full price of it.
 

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