Cycle Advice

JimmyMac34

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F0958FE0-7F1A-4622-B103-D7EC3AAC27B5.jpeg BD302277-0942-41D5-A299-4FF7294F04C8.jpeg 93A53AAC-D4DF-4833-B4AD-AE0970C2F82C.jpeg What’s up guys! Planning my next cycle and just wanted your input. I’ve ran 4 Cycles in the past but haven’t ran anything in the past year.
I’m looking at starting a cycle May 1st as a cut for summer.

I am 30 years old 5’9” 175lbs. Have been training for 6 years or so 5 days a week.

My diet is pretty strict right now and I’ll be reducing calories in the next week or so.

●Diet
1- 1c egg whites, 25g whey, 80g oats, 100g mixed berries, 1 dannon light & fit yogurt, 10g coconut oil

2- 5oz turkey, 110g rice, 5g olive oil, 65g greens

3- 5oz turkey, 110g rice, 40g avacado/guac, 65g greens

4- 1c egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 1 dannon light & fit yogurt, 65g greens


●Peri workout nutrion (on off days I have the post workout meal as meal 2, move meal 2 to meal 3 etc, and drop the pre and post shakes)

-Pre- (I eat the previous solid meal 2hrs before this and have this about 30min before training)

-20g bcaa/eaa

-Intra workout- 13g bcaa/eaa

-Post- 50g whey,

-Post meal- 6oz beef, 1 bagel or 1c rice

Currently doing 45 minutes of fasted cardio 4 times a week.

Would love to hear your feedback on this cycle or what you’d do different for a mild summer cut!

1-12 Test C 500mg Week
1-12 S4 50mg Day Split Am/Pm
1-12 GW510516 20mg Day Pre Workout
1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-4 Winstrol 25mg Day
1-4 Anadrol 25mg Day
9-14 Winstrol 50mg Day

PCT 15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK2866 25mg Day
GW501516 20mg Day
 
Not being a dick... But 6 years of 5x week and 4 cycles you should have more size, and not just bar muscles (arms and shoulders) .. And why cut?
You're already pretty lean.. I see veins and ribs lol. If anything id say maintain your bodyfat and lean bulk through the summer. You'll end up looking better. If you cut you're going to be a very thin looking 155-160 probably at your height.
Plus you're trying to cut with a wet compound like anadrol? Doesn't make sense. You're going to bloat a ton and actually look less defined...
And why all the sarms? Waste of money imo
 
Not being a dick... But 6 years of 5x week and 4 cycles you should have more size, and not just bar muscles (arms and shoulders) .. And why cut?
You're already pretty lean.. I see veins and ribs lol. If anything id say maintain your bodyfat and lean bulk through the summer. You'll end up looking better. If you cut you're going to be a very thin looking 155-160 probably at your height.
Plus you're trying to cut with a wet compound like anadrol? Doesn't make sense. You're going to bloat a ton and actually look less defined...
And why all the sarms? Waste of money imo

I have no excuse for the 6 years of training and still being smaller. I have heck trying to gain weight. Even on a 16 week EQ cycle I only got up to 191 and that was eating a ton.
My abs aren’t defined and nearly non existent right now is the reason for the cut. I wanted to look as lean as possible for summer but not 160 lean.
At 25mg of Anadrol mixed with 25mg of Winny would a guy still retain water and look wet?


I would agree the SARMs are a waste just spend that extra money on food or more gear.

I would up the food man and try to put on size. What type of look are you going for?

I haven’t purchased any SARMs yet so I don’t have a problem deleting them from this rough draft.
Ideally with time I’d like to be 195-200 8%.
I have Test Cyp, Anadrol, and Winstrol at the house now but I’ll be ordering more stuff soon.
Based off of my pictures I guess, what would you guys recommend for a cycle starting May 1st?
If I took away all SARMs and just ran

1-12 Test C 500mg Week
1-4 Anadrol 25mg Week
1-4 Winstrol 25mg Week
9-14 Winstrol 50mg Week

What’s your thoughts on that?
 
When using wet stuff like anadrol, dianabol, Deca, high dose of test with longer esters you will hold water. Adding in dry compounds will not help. That has been my experience.

If you are using anadrol you will hold water even if you add in winstrol or masteron or anavar or proviron. That has been my experience.

You can’t make wet stuff dry with dry compounds.

Maybe someone else will disagree.
 
I have no excuse for the 6 years of training and still being smaller. I have heck trying to gain weight. Even on a 16 week EQ cycle I only got up to 191 and that was eating a ton.
My abs aren’t defined and nearly non existent right now is the reason for the cut. I wanted to look as lean as possible for summer but not 160 lean.
At 25mg of Anadrol mixed with 25mg of Winny would a guy still retain water and look wet?




I haven’t purchased any SARMs yet so I don’t have a problem deleting them from this rough draft.
Ideally with time I’d like to be 195-200 8%.
I have Test Cyp, Anadrol, and Winstrol at the house now but I’ll be ordering more stuff soon.
Based off of my pictures I guess, what would you guys recommend for a cycle starting May 1st?
If I took away all SARMs and just ran

1-12 Test C 500mg Week
1-4 Anadrol 25mg Week
1-4 Winstrol 25mg Week
9-14 Winstrol 50mg Week

What’s your thoughts on that?

This cycle looks fine to me. You will only get 8 weeks worth of the Test C because it takes 4 weeks to kick in. I don’t think adding in SARMs will give you more value, just less money in wallet.

I would have an AI on hand and be prepared to use it.
 
When using wet stuff like anadrol, dianabol, Deca, high dose of test with longer esters you will hold water. Adding in dry compounds will not help. That has been my experience.

If you are using anadrol you will hold water even if you add in winstrol or masteron or anavar or proviron. That has been my experience.

You can’t make wet stuff dry with dry compounds.

Maybe someone else will disagree.

Well line me out @GdaddyGains what are your thoughts on a good next cycle? I value you guys on Meso’s opinions and as always I’d do my research before taking something that I know nothing about!
 
I have no excuse for the 6 years of training and still being smaller. I have heck trying to gain weight. Even on a 16 week EQ cycle I only got up to 191 and that was eating a ton.
My abs aren’t defined and nearly non existent right now is the reason for the cut. I wanted to look as lean as possible for summer but not 160 lean.
At 25mg of Anadrol mixed with 25mg of Winny would a guy still retain water and look wet?




I haven’t purchased any SARMs yet so I don’t have a problem deleting them from this rough draft.
Ideally with time I’d like to be 195-200 8%.
I have Test Cyp, Anadrol, and Winstrol at the house now but I’ll be ordering more stuff soon.
Based off of my pictures I guess, what would you guys recommend for a cycle starting May 1st?
If I took away all SARMs and just ran

1-12 Test C 500mg Week
1-4 Anadrol 25mg Week
1-4 Winstrol 25mg Week
9-14 Winstrol 50mg Week

What’s your thoughts on that?

I think the true problem is undereating/training and lack of knowledge about gear.
Of course you didn't gain much weight on a 16 week cycle of EQ... Its not really a bulking agent. People use it to cut.
Eat 16-20x your weight in calories. Run a basic test cycle at 500/week and gain some mass and knowledge of what works for your body.. I wouldn't bother with drol or winny. Since winny is a lean builder.. And test isn't really. You're confused about what you want to do.
Either cut or bulk. And then get the proper agents for that purpose.
 
I can see where I have mixed feelings about what I want but to say EQ isn’t a bulking compound might be a little far fetched?
I understand that any compound can be used to bulk or cut all depending on your diet but I see more people Bulking on EQ than I do Cutting.
 
EQ is kinda of a middle ground. It’s good to add in a bulk because of the increase in hunger and it puts on steady muscle.

If I were you since you have ran a few cycles I would consider:

Test C 500 mg per week 1-16
Anadrol 50 mg per week 1-4
Winstrol 50-75 mg per week 12-16

Winstrol will help drop a bit of water and polish of you cycle. It will also increase your free test and give you some strength. I really like Winstrol.
 
There isn’t really a perfect cycle. You basically choose the compounds based on your goals, how much money you have, and preference.

Some guys like high test.....I do not. I get way too many side effects. Maybe you should try just Test C @ 750 mg per week. It’s hard to say without knowing your body and what you have experimented with.
 
Pff drop the orals imo. Big impact on health markers with not so much gain in return.

i still stand behind:
Test e/c 500mg
Mk 677 10-20mg
12weeks
 
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