Cycle proposal

[Dr. Savage]

I have a few cycles under my belt. The only new compound I'll be adding is npp. My goal is to bulk and get over that 205 pound lump at 10% or less body far. I'm currently 195 8% body fat. Calories will be 4500

What do y'all think of this?

Test prop 1-8: 100 mg EOD
Npp 1-8: 100 mg EOD
Test prop 8-12: 75mg EOD
Tren ace 8-11: 50mg and bump to 75 if sides aren't too bad

Ill be taking adex .25 eod and will bump it up if needed. For pct I have nolvadex already and getting clomid before I start

Nolva 40/40/20/20/10
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5

**ive seen some people say don't run two 19 nord and others say they work good together. That's why I'm over lapping them
For one week only so while one clears out the other will already be working

 

[Dr. Savage]

Nors** gotta love autocorrect

Ill also do a full log on here for my next cycle!

 

[Hawkins]

Moderately heavy cycle for no hcg. Just a thought...

10lbs in 12 weeks should be no problem.

 

[Dr. Savage]

Im on the fence about hcg some have said yes some no. Im not opposed to it by any means. If I did hcg, what weeks should I do? And should I run 500iu per week?

Ill be fine with gaining more but just trying to have reasonable gains from this cycle while staying pretty lean

 

[Docd187123]

You're limiting your progress by trying to stay under 10%. To get those 10lbs you're going to go over 10% unless you have a lot more time.

If you plan on PCTing, then add in the HCG at 250-350iu 2-3x a week.

 

[Wunderpus]

You're limiting your progress by trying to stay under 10%. To get those 10lbs you're going to go over 10% unless you have a lot more time.

If you plan on PCTing, then add in the HCG at 250-350iu 2-3x a week.

This is totally true.... People get too out of hand with "bulking"... But, a little fat gain is mostly just part of the 'growth' process... Within reason. I do like growing when leaner as you can A. see when you're getting too soft much easier and B. you're MUCH more insulin sensitive.

 

[Dr. Savage]

I do agree. I cut pretty easy so I'll just not worry about body fat asssss much. If I'm running 12 weeks with short esters what weeks should I add hcg. I am planning on pct

 

[Hawkins]

I do agree. I cut pretty easy so I'll just not worry about body fat asssss much. If I'm running 12 weeks with short esters what weeks should I add hcg. I am planning on pct

There's a few different camps regarding hcg.
-Run it congruently with the anabolics starting a few weeks into the cycle usually dosed at 250 IUs X 2 or 3 times per week, as doc mentioned. Or...
-As a jumpstart at the conclusion of the AAS therapy. Dosed around 750 iu EOD for the first week and 350 EOD for the second. Most recommendations seem to be two weeks total for a jumpstart. This is of course before starting clomid/nolvadex therapy.

 

[Dr. Savage]

Thank you!

 

[GBridge515]

I realize this is a couple weeks old but I have a question that could also help you out Dr. Savage. I've heard that your pct should not involve nolvadex when you've ran a nandrolone, I think the reason was the chance of raised progesterone and nolvadex possibly raising it further. What's everyone's opinions on this?

 

[Dr. Savage]

I second this. I've heard the same thing and would like more opinions on nolvadex for pct with a nandrolone