Aheio
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Looking for bulking cycle recommendations. I have 6 cycles under my belt and I am looking for a good direction for this next cycle. This will be my last bulk before I start contest prep. Open to all suggestions
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You should probably start off by letting us know what your previous cycles are.
Aheio
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1. Test C 250/week for 10 weeks
2. Test C 500/week
Anavar 50mg/ed
12 weeks
3. Test C 500/week
Front loaded 25mg Anadrol for 4 weeks
NPP 300/week
Axemestane 3 times a week
16 weeks
4. Test C 750/week
NPP 400/week
EQ 300/week
Axemestane 3 times a week
16 weeks then cruised on 250 test
5. Test C 500/week
EQ 600/week
Tren A 100/week
10 weeks
6. Test C 500/week
Mast E 600/week
Tren A 200/week
Proviron ed
Cialis pre workout
Axemestane eod
12 weeks
So out of all of these, which compounds did you enjoy taking the most and/or saw the most growth out of?
fooba
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whatever gives you the least sides and up your food. we can tell you to take tren but if it kills your appetite and gives you insomnia, youre not gonna make as much progress. maybe we tell you eq, but maybe you respond poorly to it and it fucks your bp even at low doses. we can tell you primo, but maybe you bald easily.
Aheio
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Test- I feel great at 500 when I went up to 750 I had a lot more sides. I was upping my AI dose but side would functionate a lot. Nipples were really fucken sensitive and libido was trash which I need that to be on high at all times.
Anavar- Felt really good but definitely not as much gains. No sides
Anadrol- Was pretty brutal it crushed my appetite and gave me really sensitive nips. Also made me extremely lethargic.
NPP- Felt really strong, not many side other than water retention and limp dick which is why I upped the dose on the test. Any recommendations?
EQ- Didn't really see much gains from EQ but also not so many sides, I did see high BP but not sure if it was just purely the EQ or a combination of water retention, being heavier and not getting good sleep.
Tren A- Felt strong and super full, but night sweats did fuck with my sleep. Plus it makes me way more of an asshole and makes my mental capacity to deal with shit soooo fucken little.
Mast - Felt super good felt like a got some newer gains on mast, and didn't have to much side, but I am predisposed to losing my hair and I did see hair thinning while on it.
Anavar- Felt really good but definitely not as much gains. No sides
Anadrol- Was pretty brutal it crushed my appetite and gave me really sensitive nips. Also made me extremely lethargic.
NPP- Felt really strong, not many side other than water retention and limp dick which is why I upped the dose on the test. Any recommendations?
EQ- Didn't really see much gains from EQ but also not so many sides, I did see high BP but not sure if it was just purely the EQ or a combination of water retention, being heavier and not getting good sleep.
Tren A- Felt strong and super full, but night sweats did fuck with my sleep. Plus it makes me way more of an asshole and makes my mental capacity to deal with shit soooo fucken little.
Mast - Felt super good felt like a got some newer gains on mast, and didn't have to much side, but I am predisposed to losing my hair and I did see hair thinning while on it.
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
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Depends also if your looking for a clean bulk or if you don't mind holding some water..
If you felt good on 500mg Test stick to that.. I'd personally then have another run of NPP and add a low dose of Masteron to help with libido issues..
Vanagandar is pushing you in the right direction here.. You can answer this question for yourself just think about what's worked in the past..
If you felt good on 500mg Test stick to that.. I'd personally then have another run of NPP and add a low dose of Masteron to help with libido issues..
Vanagandar is pushing you in the right direction here.. You can answer this question for yourself just think about what's worked in the past..
Aheio
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I really don’t care right now. Just want to be able to fill out a bit more. I’m 6’2 so it’s been a long trajectory to filling out my frame. Naturally a hard gainer.
What would you recommend for low dose?
I agree with both you and Vanagandar, I’ve been doing all my programming and cycles and so far it’s been pretty good. Just want to get the perspective of other people with more experience since I don’t have anyone to brainstorm or discuss with.
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
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Ah nice so what weight are you currently carrying then? I have a guy at 6'3 he's only aiming for 230lbs I tell him go bigger haha..
I would probably start my Test at 500mg as your comfortable.. Then add NPP and Mast both at 200mg..This sits you at 900mg weekly total and plenty of room of titrate.. And remember 100mg of Test can make the world of difference, alot of the time people throw in an extra CC a week and can't take the sides.. Just increase slowly let the body adapt.. If start to feel shit just pull it back for a while..
I trust you will be running bloodwork through your cycle so keep your eyes on things..
Aheio
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My last cycle I did a bit of a cutting faze I got up to 215 but was definitely carried a lot of water and higher BF. I’m at 195 after PCT trying to get back to 215 asap but don’t have a “weight” I exactly want to be at just want to visually see the progress and be able to progressively improve.
Makes sense I will definitely keep this in mind. Would you say titration of 100 mg is best or would you go any lower? Yeah I’ll be running bloods mid cycle to check Estrogen again checked last cycle and it was at 52.
Pulpfiction
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My go to is test, npp, mast. Test 500
Npp 300 and mast 300. Ai at .5 2x a week. If I’m feeling pretty good I’ll throw an oral in the beginning of the cycle, depending on what my main goal is. Your cycles look good, maybe time to add some hgh I. The mix at 2iu a day. Tren I love but the sides aren’t worth it anymore to me. I can’t eat because of stomach issues and the stomach issues make it miserable to train. But in my earlier days tren was a staple, no more than 300 mg. Eq gives me
Anxiety worse than any other compound. Halo is a no go but anadrol and winny I’ll throw in the mix, even tbol. Just depends what I’m going for whether that be a cut or a bulk. Ment is something I tried earlier last year and I was very impressed, but like the other guys are saying, you won’t know how they affect you until you actually try them .
Npp 300 and mast 300. Ai at .5 2x a week. If I’m feeling pretty good I’ll throw an oral in the beginning of the cycle, depending on what my main goal is. Your cycles look good, maybe time to add some hgh I. The mix at 2iu a day. Tren I love but the sides aren’t worth it anymore to me. I can’t eat because of stomach issues and the stomach issues make it miserable to train. But in my earlier days tren was a staple, no more than 300 mg. Eq gives me
Anxiety worse than any other compound. Halo is a no go but anadrol and winny I’ll throw in the mix, even tbol. Just depends what I’m going for whether that be a cut or a bulk. Ment is something I tried earlier last year and I was very impressed, but like the other guys are saying, you won’t know how they affect you until you actually try them .
Aheio
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I’ve debated about hgh but I think I need to do a bit more research don’t feel completely comfortable with dealing with any side effects. Do you have any recommendations?
I really did like the Tren look but I’ll probably save it until I’m cutting. I completely agree with you that's why I’m just trying everything at least once but still trying to not ruin my health. What did you like about Ment? I was debating about throwing some halo in the end of cycle.
Pulpfiction
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Halo was the absolute worst decision I made, it gave me pancreatitis, plus everything else in my cycle didn’t help but that threw it over the edge. I was getting ready for a physique show in 22, me and my coach at the time added halo 10mg 2 weeks out and I didn’t make it on stage because of the pancreatitis.
Peptides are great to slowly get benefits from growth hormone. I’ve used ipamorelin for years, so does my wife. Very low dose daily at 250 mcg. It releases more of your bodies natural production of growth hormone.
You’re going to find certain compounds that just blend with you. Ment at a low dose is still strong but I had to crank my ai dose higher than I’d like. It’s a nandrolone like npp snd tren.
I could get away with orals, any oral really in my 20’s and early 30’s, now in my late 30’s not so much, I choose less sides over wild cycles.
Juicedhead
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Yeah man so with bulking youre going to want to run fewer compounds. For example for me 1 gram of test with eq is my go to for bulking. Im able to put down crazy amounts of food and I feel good. What ive seen most guys do is around 1 gram of test or whatever you can handle before you start having major bp issues. Most guys wont go above 1250 to 1500mg is the ceiling for most from what ive seen. for me its 1 gram is just right. No saying use a gram of test but you get what im trying to say. Then just add eq or deca. Which ever one you like better for me its eq. Then add gh, and add insulin if you want to really grow. So to sum up a really good bulking cycle is 1gram test, 800mg of eq. 5-10iu of gh, and insulin after you train i do 5ius. If you like deca id keep it under 600mg. The goal is to be able to eat as much as possible obviously and on the cycle i laid out which has worked the best for me i can get down a lot of food. Keep the drugs as simple as possible when bulking. Just my opinion.
Seems like Test and Mast agree the most with you. If you're worried about hair loss on Mast, then just get a script for some prescription topicals. I know Happy Head and Hims both offer topical blends, which are preferable compared to taking oral Finasteride. Even if you're concerned with taking topical Finasteride, they offer blends without it.
Since you've taken 500 Test and liked it, start at either that or 400. Add in ~200 Mast. Feel free to +/- based off bloodwork, progress, "feelz", etc.
Another option in place of Mast is Primo, though I don't have personal experience with it, and it can cause some libido issues in some dudes (or the complete opposite in others).
Generally speaking, I'd stay away from orals for the most part.
Hope this helps, as it's all extremely broad.
Since you've taken 500 Test and liked it, start at either that or 400. Add in ~200 Mast. Feel free to +/- based off bloodwork, progress, "feelz", etc.
Another option in place of Mast is Primo, though I don't have personal experience with it, and it can cause some libido issues in some dudes (or the complete opposite in others).
Generally speaking, I'd stay away from orals for the most part.
Hope this helps, as it's all extremely broad.
Aheio
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Damn man that sounds like a nightmare.
Did you end competing after all that?
Have you experienced any side effects from it? Is 250mcg a good starting dose or did you titrate to that?
How high did you go on the AI? I honestly want to try every compound/orals at least once and see how they work with my body. I think there’s only so much you can learn from doing research we all need to learn our bodies.
Aheio
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Thanks for the advice how high are you running your Ai? Are you taking anything for BP?
Aheio
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I’ve actually been debating starting topical treatments. But been putting it off. I think it’s probably time.
Thanks for the advice. Is there a reason why you don’t use primo? I personally haven’t used it because of the price I just don’t feel like it’s worth it when I can practically use other compounds for a third or half the price.
Price + scared of my dick not working. I used Deca in the past, twice. The first time I felt great, with some slight ED issues, which went away by increasing my Test. The second time my dick didn't work and I felt depressed, regardless of Test dosage. Since then I've tried to steer away from anything that might make give me ED symptoms. I still might give it a go in the future, but probably with Primo Acetate. That being said, there are plenty of guys that absolutely swear by Primo and have a great libido on it.
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
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Nah man can titrate whatever you want I just use 100mg as example my friend..
I hear you bro that's best way to be, too many guys get fixated with been a certain weight, they hit that weight then don't look at all how they expected.. Stick to the mirror
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