Dad wants reta, but he has prior health issues.

[Maushhendh]

I’ll start by saying im no doctor, and ideally he should see his to make sure it’s safe. My dad’s looking to use some reta after he has seen my results. Only thing is he’s had some health issues in the past. Obviously a doctor would be best, but he won’t go see one due to money. If anyone can give some input on if it’s safe or not please let me know. His priors are:

Prior colectomy

Healed duodenal ulcer
Cardiac electrical abnormality (no atrial fibrillation)

I understand you guys aren’t doctors either, I’m just wondering if it’s safe to try a low dose for a bit, or if it’s an absolute no go. Any input is greatly appreciated, he’s fat and needs to lose weight

 

[johnjay06]

Reta will raise his resting heart rate. Not sure taking something that’ll mess with his heart is a smart idea

 

[Endeavor Fitness]

I’ll start by saying im no doctor, and ideally he should see his to make sure it’s safe. My dad’s looking to use some reta after he has seen my results. Only thing is he’s had some health issues in the past. Obviously a doctor would be best, but he won’t go see one due to money. If anyone can give some input on if it’s safe or not please let me know. His priors are:

Prior colectomy

Healed duodenal ulcer
Cardiac electrical abnormality (no atrial fibrillation)

I understand you guys aren’t doctors either, I’m just wondering if it’s safe to try a low dose for a bit, or if it’s an absolute no go. Any input is greatly appreciated, he’s fat and needs to lose weight

Take a look over this. I mean depending on the seriousness of his condition.

Retatrutide improves lipid and cardiovascular risk profile in Phase II trial

 

[Ghoul]

Stick with Tirzapetide. The results will be similar, but it has a well established safety profile, unlike Reta, which isn’t FDA approved yet and could have a contraindication against cardiac electrical conditions because of its pronounced impact on heart rate.

Also, if moneys tight, Tirz is going to be half the price. He knows he can’t just do it for a while, then stop, without a 90%+ chance of weight rebound right? You know how much metabolic stress he’d be under with his blood pressure, lipids, inflammation, and glucose shooting back up to baseline if he does?

 

[Maushhendh]

Stick with Tirzapetide. The results will be similar, but it has a well established safety profile, unlike Reta, which isn’t FDA approved yet and could have a contraindication against cardiac electrical conditions because of its pronounced impact on heart rate.

Also, if moneys tight, Tirz is going to be half the price. He knows he can’t just do it for a while, then stop, without a 90%+ chance of weight rebound right? You know how much metabolic stress he’d be under with his blood pressure, lipids, inflammation, and glucose shooting back up to baseline if he does?

What do you suggest then? Obviously it has to be a lifestyle change, I’d assume he will start to eat healthier on Reta.

 

[rxzed]

What do you suggest then? Obviously it has to be a lifestyle change, I’d assume he will start to eat healthier on Reta.

Tirzepatide. He's just emphasizing that it needs to be taken for life. Lifestyle changes take time to implement, something he probably doesn't have. Those changes can follow after he loses the weight.

 

[Ghoul]

Tirzepatide. He's just emphasizing that it needs to be taken for life. Lifestyle changes take time to implement, something he probably doesn't have. Those changes can follow after he loses the weight.

Even with lifestyle changes, the fundamental impact of these incritin hormones on all kinds of processes from endothelial function to glucose control isn’t going to remain once it’s dropped.

It’s not a diet pill, it’s more like insulin. Your father probably has full blown metabolic dysfunction like most people over 40. This will dramatically improve his health far beyond weight loss, but if it’s stopped, all of that’s going to go right back to the way it was, which could be dangerous.

So just think long term. A single $125 Tirz 30 kit would probably last him a year.

 

[Maushhendh]

Even with lifestyle changes, the fundamental impact of these incritin hormones on all kinds of processes from endothelial function to glucose control isn’t going to remain once it’s dropped.

It’s not a diet pill, it’s more like insulin. Your father probably has full blown metabolic dysfunction like most people over 40. This will dramatically improve his health far beyond weight loss, but if it’s stopped, all of that’s going to go right back to the way it was, which could be dangerous.

So just think long term. A single $125 Tirz 30 kit would probably last him a year.

How does triz compare to reta? Just the same feeling but without the glucagon receptor?

 

[Ghoul]

How does triz compare to reta? Just the same feeling but without the glucagon receptor?

Correct. Since he presumably has weight to lose, some would argue it’s even a little more effective at the beginning).

Just follow the same plan as the prescription drug (Zepbound).

2.5mg/wk, if it’s tolerable after 4 weeks you can go to next dose level 5mg, after 4 weeks either stay there longer or go to 7.5mg. etc. keep going until he gets to his goal weight or you reach max dose of 15mg,

I don’t know how old he is, but if he gets to Medicare age (or is on Medicaid) pharma Tirz (Zepbound) is going to be $50/mo or free starting next year.

 

[KOArtist]

How does triz compare to reta? Just the same feeling but without the glucagon receptor?

Tirz definitely has more appetite suppression.

 

[lilhawk]

Tirz if he wants appetite suppression, Reta if he wants more health benefits other than appetite suppression and weight loss. Tirz was terrible for me, just made me feel ill at 1.25mg per week. Couldn't eat at all, which is a no go for me because I don't want the appetite suppression from it. Reta at 2mg per week is awesome. I don't get any HR increase from it at all, but it incinerates fat. The HR increase is individual, some people get it some don't. I like it because it keeps my FBG normal no matter the dose of GH I use up to 10iu.

 

[BP_6]

I am seeing the tirz vs reta appetite suppression thing more and more. Even with one of those expensive clinics that charge you an arm and a leg for peptides. The doctor said he has had several patients want to switch from tirz to reta from all the great things they heard. They switch them over only for the patient to start complaining that the appetite suppression isn't like it was on triz and they started over eating again and want to go back to triz.

Not sure why this is occurring, but it seems to happen to a strong degree in some people. Myself, didn't notice a dramatic difference.