Dbol post cycle to help ED?

[YoungGuns]

Hey Guys
I came off of an insanely long test enan/deca cycle a little over a month ago. I finished with HCG and I'm still using Nolvadex, but I'm having trouble keeping an erection... I have some Dbol kicking around - Will taking about 35-40mg daily help me with my problem or will it just make it worse?

Any ideas on how to solve it as fast as possible?
Thanks

 

[nj juice]

Did you use any clomid post-cycle?
What did your cycle dosages look like?

 

[YoungGuns]

Did you use any clomid post-cycle?
What did your cycle dosages look like?

No Clomid use.. Just HCG and Nolvadex and recently Tribex, which has helped a little bit... I just wonder whether the Dbol will work as therapy if I take it in the mornings or if it will work against me and further shut me down
The cycle dosages were retarded, averaged 1000mg Deca/500mg Test per week

 

[graybass]

Boner!!

I've had a little experience with this subject. LOL although its not funny. In my personal experience Clomid is VERY effective. For me D-bol would just make it worse without more recovery therapy. A temporary fix would be Test not The big D. Use clomid, be patient, or get your girlfriend a boob job, ( that always worked for me) Happy Humping

 

[Deacon]

forget about d-bol - if you want to get terrific hard ons again get some proviron and run it at 50 mgs per day.

 

[skywalk]

forget about d-bol - if you want to get terrific hard ons again get some proviron and run it at 50 mgs per day.

dbol and proviron are bad because they both further prevent HPTA recovery. dont even go there.
My suggestions, get your bloodwork done. it's about 30-45 bucks so its cheap. If it is indeed low, then do another PCT. Are your testicles still shrunken? what were your dosages of HCG?

my suggestion for PCT:
femara 2.5mg ED for 10 days.
Nolvadex 40mg ED for 2 weeks, then 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.

if you still have testicular atrophy, do HCG at 500iu ED for the first 10 days along with the femara and nolvadex.

Skywalk

 

[hellkite88]

ciallis

dbol and proviron are bad because they both further prevent HPTA recovery. dont even go there.
My suggestions, get your bloodwork done. it's about 30-45 bucks so its cheap. If it is indeed low, then do another PCT. Are your testicles still shrunken? what were your dosages of HCG?

my suggestion for PCT:
femara 2.5mg ED for 10 days.
Nolvadex 40mg ED for 2 weeks, then 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.

if you still have testicular atrophy, do HCG at 500iu ED for the first 10 days along with the femara and nolvadex.

Skywalk

Bro you just need to get some cialis.

 

[makoman]

I agree with hellkite88 about using Cialis. Don't take any more gear at all. Let your body fully recover for a while. I would use clomid and nolva for a while and use Cialis or Viagra to help with the ED problem. The use of anabolics will perpetuate the problem even further.

 

[skywalk]

I agree with hellkite88 about using Cialis. Don't take any more gear at all. Let your body fully recover for a while. I would use clomid and nolva for a while and use Cialis or Viagra to help with the ED problem. The use of anabolics will perpetuate the problem even further.

I agree with your suggestion of not taking gear, but I disagree about taking cialis. Find out what the problem is, and address it. Don't cover it up with drugs like cialis. Go get some bloodwork done and take it from there. If necessary, do another PCT as detailed above.

Skywalk

 

[nj juice]

You're shut down dude, you've got deca dick...You should always take more test than you do deca because deca shuts your boys down hardcore...Get some clomid, run that the usual 300/100/50- you can even run it a little longer if youre shut down real bad...In the meantime, if youre looking to get laid take the cialis...

 

[4545]

Cialis and Proviron are killer, thats what you need

 

[Deacon]

proviron is not surpressive at all.

 

[Mark Kerr]

How long was your cycle, because I think the problem is obvious, but no one caught it:

If you were on cycle a very long time, and you were doing 1g of Deca per week...guess what? After only 1 month, you still have a ton of Deca in your system! People who run only 400mg of Deca for only 10 weeks still have problems with PCT after only 1 month. Keep taking your Nolvadex because PCT with those dosages for that long can take as long as 6 months!

In short, you still have a ton of Deca in your system and that is what keeps your HPTA shutdown.


Your friend,

Mark

 

[skywalk]

proviron is not surpressive at all.

very ignorant statement deacon, please allow me to show you some literature, courtesy of big cat:

Mesterolone is generally well liked nonetheless as it delivers very few side-effects in men. In high doses it can cause some virilization symptoms in women. But because of the high level of deactivation and pre-destination in the system (albumin, SHBG, 3bHSD, aromatase) quite a lot of it, if not all simply never reaches the androgen receptor where it would cause anabolic effects, but also side-effects. So its relatively safe. Doses between 25 and 250 mg per day are used with no adverse effects. 50 mg per day is usually sufficient to be effective in each of the four cases we mentioned up above, so going higher really isn't necessary. Unlike what some suggest or believe, its not advised that Proviron be used when not used in conjunction with another steroid, as it too is quite suppressive of natural testosterone, leading to all sorts of future complications upon discontinuation. Ranging from loss of libido or erectile dysfunction all the way up to infertility. One would not be aware of such dangers because Proviron fulfills most of the functions of normal levels of testosterone.

bottom line: it supresses your natural testosterone.

Skywalk

 

[Deacon]

Skywalk;

I know very well what Big Cat says.
But it has never been proven that Proviron causes any suppression or shutdown of HPTA.
Actually most of the bros I know use it during their cycle to keep erectile troubles away.
Actually Big Cat's explanation is kind of murky compared to most of his well written articles. He pretty much states it is safe while used with other steroids but used alone it can cause shutdown.

As I have said I know many veteran lifters who have used it and do use it to prep the test production prior to PCT and they swear by it.

So call me ignorant if you want but have you ever tried it?
I know what it does to me and it sure as hell is not supressing anything - quite the opposite really.

Perhaps we can agree that using d-bol as originally asked is not the right thing to do.

Interesting conversation with you bro.
Peace

 

[Ronin_]

I agree with Mark, at 1g deca a week you have perhaps 1400mg accumalated, now you cant start to recover until total steroids get to 200mg or less. And in test accumulated at 700mg.

With decas half life at 8 days you don't get levelsdown to 175mg until 21 days later, and test at 5 day halflife assuming cyp thats still about 90mg after 21 days

So you still have about 100mg of gear left bro