Debating which Oral Steroid is conducive to my goals (Bulk)

[BrockSamson42]

I will be doing a blast/bulk soon, and don't plan on doing too many of these again. But You never know. Currently on TRT.

Currently 5'10 at 185lb. I would probably start this cycle in a few months after I'm done with my cutting with clen.

The cycle in question will be:
300mg SUST EW (Favorite of the tests)
300mg Deca EW (Better joint, and tendon preservation as the weight moves up easier.)
150mg Tren A EW (dosed ED 150mg/7) Mainly taking for the androgens for shoulders and traps due to high level of receptors. As well as aggression
HGH 3iu split, 1.5iu morning, 1.5IU at night for an IGF increase.
BPC157 250mcg ED (As it increases the HGH receptors on tendon tissue, its a synergistic effect.)
TB500 ( I have it, may use 5mg EW, or just )
Proviron 25mg ED

Supps : Glutamine for Tren Sides in the stomach, hate it. But this solves it. Caber on hand, a lot of it. Tamoxifen, Anastrozole.

An oral for 4 weeks, unsure which;

I am considering Anadrol or TBOL without going overboard. The TBOL for lower sides and increased pumps/endurance. But Iv'e only ever taken 50mg ED. Did more experienced users with this have better luck at a higher dosage? Anadrol is the only oral iv'e never tried and heard the mental effect is great. As my goal is as much muscle mass as possible, I'm not sure if this overkill to my current stack or something leaner and drier will be more beneficial.

The water and methylated estrogen from DBOL doesn't interest me too much but if it's a superior choice I could conducer the injectable version for a longer half life to do some work.

EDIT: I do plan on front loading the DECA as well as use up a little bit of NPP I have left to get the nandrolone working faster than the 5-6 week saturation mark.

 

[T&H]

I will be doing a blast/bulk soon, and don't plan on doing too many of these again. But You never know. Currently on TRT.

Currently 5'10 at 185lb. I would probably start this cycle in a few months after I'm done with my cutting with clen.

The cycle in question will be:
300mg SUST EW (Favorite of the tests)
300mg Deca EW (Better joint, and tendon preservation as the weight moves up easier.)
150mg Tren A EW (dosed ED 150mg/7) Mainly taking for the androgens for shoulders and traps due to high level of receptors. As well as aggression
HGH 3iu split, 1.5iu morning, 1.5IU at night for an IGF increase.
BPC157 250mcg ED (As it increases the HGH receptors on tendon tissue, its a synergistic effect.)
TB500 ( I have it, may use 5mg EW, or just )
Proviron 25mg ED

Supps : Glutamine for Tren Sides in the stomach, hate it. But this solves it. Caber on hand, a lot of it. Tamoxifen, Anastrozole.

An oral for 4 weeks, unsure which;

I am considering Anadrol or TBOL without going overboard. The TBOL for lower sides and increased pumps/endurance. But Iv'e only ever taken 50mg ED. Did more experienced users with this have better luck at a higher dosage? Anadrol is the only oral iv'e never tried and heard the mental effect is great. As my goal is as much muscle mass as possible, I'm not sure if this overkill to my current stack or something leaner and drier will be more beneficial.

The water and methylated estrogen from DBOL doesn't interest me too much but if it's a superior choice I could conducer the injectable version for a longer half life to do some work.

EDIT: I do plan on front loading the DECA as well as use up a little bit of NPP I have left to get the nandrolone working faster than the 5-6 week saturation mark.

So your asking which is better for a bulk between adrol and tbol? No brainer here, anadrol hands down. Tbol is not known as a bulker and underwhelming to many, including myself.

Go with some real anadrol and play with your dose to determine how much.

 

[rufflesbaby]

Maybe throw in some Var and see how you respond to that, I personally respond very well to It and feel It's a bit underrated. I'd say the strength and muscle increase Is on par from my experience with Anadrol as well

 

[narta]

Wtf did I just read?

150mg Tren A EW (dosed ED 150mg/7) Mainly taking for the androgens for shoulders and traps due to high level of receptors

Drol 50mg/day

 

[BrockSamson42]

So your asking which is better for a bulk between adrol and tbol? No brainer here, anadrol hands down. Tbol is not known as a bulker and underwhelming to many, including myself.

Go with some real anadrol and play with your dose to determine how much.

Right, I def knew Adrol overall it was better for bulker. Does injectable mitigate the lack of appetite ?

The reason I brought TBOL up was the idea that 300mg of Deca was enough here and maybe 75mg or 100mg ED could add something.

In terms of Anadrol what was your experience?

 

[4Drago]

Let me try to understand this. You're 5' 10" and you just finished a CUT to 185lbs. Now you are bulking? Were you fat or something, competing? Because its hard to see how it makes sense to cut to 185 at all in the first place.
I mean you said your goal is for as much mass as possible.

 

[fooba]

you need more food not drugs

 

[Burly]

you need more food not drugs

I stand with that !
Not all the dirrerent roids make you grow, food makes you grow.
You can even grow on 400test/200 primo

 

[Moulefruit]

Oral steroids will kill your appetit, and for bulking you need to have a very big appetit so it's not a smart idea

 

[Burly]

Oral steroids will kill your appetit, and for bulking you need to have a very big appetit so it's not a smart idea

Dbol doesn't kill my appetite
On a long run, you can also do Test- EQ

 

[lukiss96]

This question has been asked at least dozen times starting probably from 2003 when this forum officially launched. Turns out 20 years later people still ask same things, why? Because they want to be handed everything, why stuff your head with information and put effort learning when you can be given protocol and you choose to do what we say?

It doesn't work for long, it's like training and diet, no one can do it for you except you can, only you hold the power to change your body. Learning how to use steroids is just as important if you choose to enter the enhanced lifestyle.

Usually people who are lazy both in the gym and dieting, they achieve mediocre results and then look for easier way out - steroids, drugs and etc. since their logic is laziness and quick fix already, they view it just like that.

TLDR:
It is counter productive to hand them the cycle since they don't know what they're doing and most importantly don't want to know and learn.

 

[Pulpfiction]

I actually like tbol. I respond well to it. Better than var for me. Your cycle is already stacked without the adrol or tbol though. I’d frontload the deca, raise tren to 200, and you should see some amazing gains

 

[OldGHGuy]

With that cycle you dont even need orals. Why wreck your lipids even more? Work hard, eat and rest. Thats planty of AAS for your goals

 

[Burly]

If you have Tendon or Joint pain, fix it before doing a bulk cycle

 

[Xplicit]

If you have Tendon or Joint pain, fix it before doing a bulk cycle

You do realize this is inevitable if you reach a certain size right? Its very smart to run compounds that support tendons and/or joints. HGH, EQ, Deca, TB500 are all very commonly used for this purpose.

 

[Burly]

You do realize this is inevitable if you reach a certain size right? Its very smart to run compounds that support tendons and/or joints. HGH, EQ, Deca, TB500 are all very commonly used for this purpose.

Can you read my post once more please, and now slowly

 

[Xplicit]

Can you read my post once more please, and now slowly

Oh I see, you are small so you have no idea what I am talking about. Carry on.

 

[BrockSamson42]

With that cycle you dont even need orals. Why wreck your lipids even more? Work hard, eat and rest. Thats planty of AAS for your goals

Also a good answer! Was def on the table as well, not taking any oral as Iv'e never experienced one that didn't kill my appetite.

 

[Avarice911]

Also a good answer! Was def on the table as well, not taking any oral as Iv'e never experienced one that didn't kill my appetite.

Sounds like sticking to injectables will get you the best results then!

 

[Burly]

Oh I see, you are small so you have no idea what I am talking about. Carry on.

Before do a bulk, itś better to heal joint and tendon pain. What meds you use doesn´t matter. Im no NPC/IFBB pro correct