DHB PIP and alternate esters?

[I6JQdr06]

If the PIP from 1-test Cyp is so bad and it’s prone to crashing, why not use a longer ester?

I understand that it used to be available orally as an undecanoate. I’ve looked everywhere but I can’t find a raw. Wouldn’t it make more sense though to brew with this?

 

[narta]

I remember that 1-test orals back in the prohormone era, would burn the tongue when consumed. The burning was never dealt with, ultimate "solution" was the 1-test U oil capsules that used the lymphatic system for absorption alas poor one.
I think the whole DHB pip is from the compound itfself and not something that has to do with the ester attached. I have heard anecdotal experiences of homebrewers that brewing it in castor oil lessens the pip in 100/75 mg/ml concentrations

 

[unfrozen]

I remember that 1-test orals back in the prohormone era, would burn the tongue when consumed. The burning was never dealt with, ultimate "solution" was the 1-test U oil capsules that used the lymphatic system for absorption alas poor one.
I think the whole DHB pip is from the compound itfself and not something that has to do with the ester attached. I have heard anecdotal experiences of homebrewers that brewing it in castor oil lessens the pip in 100/75 mg/ml concentrations

Think your talking about Methyl-1-testosterone. Different compound then dhb

 

[micro2000]

Think your talking about Methyl-1-testosterone. Different compound then dhb

No, I think he's correct. The original 1-Androstenediol (which converts to 1-test) and 1-test itself had an intrinsic irritating property. They would cause a burning sensation on the tongue and if I recall, some complained of burning sensation when they pissed if they took enough.

 

[I6JQdr06]

I suppose it makes sense that primo is also associated with PIP, albeit at a lower extent, seeing as it’s 2-methyl-DHB

 

[narta]

No, I think he's correct. The original 1-Androstenediol (which converts to 1-test) and 1-test itself had an intrinsic irritating property. They would cause a burning sensation on the tongue and if I recall, some complained of burning sensation when they pissed if they took enough.

This. The 1-test Undecanoate was a real product, nothing like the m1t.

 

[I6JQdr06]

This. The 1-test Undecanoate was a real product, nothing like the m1t.

Shame the raw isn’t available anymore (to my knowledge)