DNP and water retention

[nlb27]

Hi, has anyone taken DNP and noticed that their body is water logged massively?
Does anyone know the cause of this? (scientifically) and if there is anything that can be taken to stop this happening? Diuretics generally don't work.
Thank you.

 

[noah_k]

I've read it shifts water internally with widespread vasodilation to deal with the effects of the drug. Please do not take diuretics on DNP. Not only would it not be entirely effective (as you say) but I believe it'd also be a dangerous combination.

I'd think diet will contribute, even if you are in a deficit / have an increased BMR. Either way, it goes away on its own quick enough.

 

[nlb27]

I've read it shifts water internally with widespread vasodilation to deal with the effects of the drug. Please do not take diuretics on DNP. Not only would it not be entirely effective (as you say) but I believe it'd also be a dangerous combination.

I'd think diet will contribute, even if you are in a deficit / have an increased BMR. Either way, it goes away on its own quick enough.

Thank you.
What sort of diet do you think links to increased water retention? I have experienced it when I include more carbs and also when I don't eat any, however tiredness levels seem to have an impact.
It seems less of a problem at the beginning of a cycle and gets worse towards the end…I have read this could be to do with lowering T3 levels however supplementing with T3 doesn't seem to help either!

Anyone else got any advice/tips of how to reduce this effect at all?

 

[noah_k]

Right, going off the mechanism in the last post, I wouldn't bet on influencing it to any major degree. Just that smaller contributors to it (high carb diet, bloaty foods, indigestion) might all have a factor. I don't think it's a result of t4/t3 conversion or levels. Time is your friend here! Just wait until you're off and keep diet in check until then. For the time being, you're sweaty, yellow, smelly, and two steps away from death anyhow.. so why not add bloated?

 

[nlb27]

Right, going off the mechanism in the last post, I wouldn't bet on influencing it to any major degree. Just that smaller contributors to it (high carb diet, bloaty foods, indigestion) might all have a factor. I don't think it's a result of t4/t3 conversion or levels. Time is your friend here! Just wait until you're off and keep diet in check until then. For the time being, you're sweaty, yellow, smelly, and two steps away from death anyhow.. so why not add bloated?

I guess this is true!
Have you ever ran a DNP cycle? If so, do you know by what percentage (roughly) your metabolic rate increased?

 

[noah_k]

No, while I know can take safe dosages and probably not die, the risk for peripheral neuropathy and the lethargy I decided isn't worth it to me. If I could manage a productive work day and not have to worry about nerve damage, I think I'd be a fan. But I tried to read a bit about it at length, the best fat burning compound, worth a look at least...

Unlike some other drugs, I understand it's not body weight dependent. It's also individually variable, but Cutting & Tanner's results showed an average of 11% increase per 100mg of pure DNP. With sodium dnp ("crystal") you can expect a little less. Given the variability, it's best to underestimate with 11% per 200mg of crystal as a guideline, instead of miscalculating a deficit. Put a lot of effort into the diet, if you're going to be taking something so potent, you might as well make the most of it and minimize the time on / dosages

 

[nlb27]

No, while I know can take safe dosages and probably not die, the risk for peripheral neuropathy and the lethargy I decided isn't worth it to me. If I could manage a productive work day and not have to worry about nerve damage, I think I'd be a fan. But I tried to read a bit about it at length, the best fat burning compound, worth a look at least...

Unlike some other drugs, I understand it's not body weight dependent. It's also individually variable, but Cutting & Tanner's results showed an average of 11% increase per 100mg of pure DNP. With sodium dnp ("crystal") you can expect a little less. Given the variability, it's best to underestimate with 11% per 200mg of crystal as a guideline, instead of miscalculating a deficit. Put a lot of effort into the diet, if you're going to be taking something so potent, you might as well make the most of it and minimize the time on / dosages

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I agree with you. Completely. Thank you for your help and advice