Do Muscles Get Used To Crippling PIP???

[one5onecc]

So Ive been through 3 labs with good success, smooth shots and no noticeable pip unless I completely messed up an injection.

Switched to a new lab and after injecting 1ml of test e 300 into my quad I couldn't bend my leg or walk without limping for a week. Pain sets in about 6-8 hours after injecting and gets worse all the way up until the next day.

Pinned pecs with 0.5ml each and I couldn't raise my arms properly or to the side or workout for like 8 days.

Did my delt yesterday and same thing, such a crippling pain and I will probably have to skip my shoulder workout on thursday because of the lack of range of motion.

None of these areas are virgin sites they've all taken tons of shots up to 1cc every 4 days.

I have no redness, no itching, very minor swelling not noticeable to the eye only when I rub the muscle.

Will I my muscles adjust to whatever is causing the pip over time?

My second right quad shot had brutal PIP but it only took about 4 days for the pain to become bearable, didn't have to rely on nsaids as much to function.

So what gives, what's causing it? Nobody else reported pip.

 

[little]

Name the lab, sounds like more bb or ba idk, the brewers should chime in soon lol

I just know I’ve had my friend lower those to relieve pip

 

[murray312]

Ive used a source that was good for awhile then one batch the pip was crippling like you described. I tried to ride it out it my muscle never got used to it. Hurt everywhere for 7 days no redness just pain.

 

[little]

Well I didn’t answer, but yeah my spots eventually stopped reacting bad to prop esters

 

[one5onecc]

Well I didn’t answer, but yeah my spots eventually stopped reacting bad to prop esters

Lab is Med tech solutions.

Ur muscles stopped reacting badly? That gives me a bit of hope, don’t want to have to toss out 6 vials lol.

So would you rule out an allergy to EO or carrier oil?

Some people suggested I was reacting to the EO but I don’t have the redness or itching that I assume you get with an allergy.

 

[one5onecc]

I also tried heating the vial in hot water before injecting, injecting very slowly, hot shower before/hot shower after, heating pad at night.

Made no difference.

 

[TheH0517]

You could try to order a FILTERED carrier like GSO or MCT oil and add 1 part Test to 1 part carrier to dilute it and see if it helps. I wouldn’t continue if it doesn’t subside after this or a second round on those muscles.

 

[JC Grifter]

Two years ago I got back into the game and ran a test cycle that crippled my legs lol. Two or three injections on each leg it started to subside quite a bit and eventually didn’t feel the pip anymore.

 

[Eman]

Have you ever used test enanthate before? Some guys don't react well to it.

300mg/ml isn't usually painful IME, for enanthate. It's unusual that you'd need to consider dilution.

If it's not the enanthate bothering you, it's most likely the solvents. I doubt you'll get very used to it... I'm not sure that it would be a good thing to try to get used to it.

 

[JC Grifter]

Have you ever used test enanthate before? Some guys don't react well to it.

300mg/ml isn't usually painful IME, for enanthate. It's unusual that you'd need to consider dilution.

If it's not the enanthate bothering you, it's most likely the solvents. I doubt you'll get very used to it... I'm not sure that it would be a good thing to try to get used to it.

For me the pip I was getting was with enanthate. Only time I ever used it. Interesting

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Im super sensitive to gear and I homebrew. I know everyone is different but for me the issue has boiled down to mg/ml. I have played with different ba and bb amounts. Ive I took antibiotics thinking it was sterility and went the allergy route to no avail. The only luck I have had was switching mct oil to gso and brewing test at 200mg/ml. I use bold cyp which Ive read is painful and I have been using it for months so that could have something to do with it. I brew bold cyp at 150mg/ml instead of the 200+ that is recomended in recipes

 

[Eman]

For me the pip I was getting was with enanthate. Only time I ever used it. Interesting

I would just switch to cyp. I don't really know exactly what causes it, I've read one possible explanation but I have no idea if it's true or not. I deal with enanthate fine so it's never been a thing for me. I've just seen enough reports over the years to fully believe there is something about the enanthate ester that some just react poorly to.

 

[one5onecc]

Have you ever used test enanthate before? Some guys don't react well to it.

300mg/ml isn't usually painful IME, for enanthate. It's unusual that you'd need to consider dilution.

If it's not the enanthate bothering you, it's most likely the solvents. I doubt you'll get very used to it... I'm not sure that it would be a good thing to try to get used to it.

test e is the only injectable ive ever ran.

used both 300mg and 250mg with no pain.

 

[one5onecc]

You could try to order a FILTERED carrier like GSO or MCT oil and add 1 part Test to 1 part carrier to dilute it and see if it helps. I wouldn’t continue if it doesn’t subside after this or a second round on those muscles.

not sure if I’d like to be playing chemist mixing up oils in my kitchen lol.

if it comes to that I’ll just reorder from another source and bin this stuff.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

I would just switch to cyp. I don't really know exactly what causes it, I've read one possible explanation but I have no idea if it's true or not. I deal with enanthate fine so it's never been a thing for me. I've just seen enough reports over the years to fully believe there is something about the enanthate ester that some just react poorly to.

Ive read its the enanthatic acid used to bind the hormone

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Try switching Esters.

Mostly try switching labs.
.You've ran 2 types of gear with no PIP (how were your gains, did you get bloods?)

Switch your lab, good gear does NOT cripple you.
Everyone kept saying DHB is crippling, got some stuff in MCT and felt great.

Stop putting yourself through hell, get qaulity gear.
Talk to your rep, tell them what's up.

.5ml in Pec should do FUCK all in terms of PIP.
chest can take some decent oil.

With good gear, I'll throw 1.5ml in the delt with no issues..... IF it's good gear.

Bad gear.... half s ML will fuck you up.

 

[little]

Lab is Med tech solutions.

Ur muscles stopped reacting badly? That gives me a bit of hope, don’t want to have to toss out 6 vials lol.

So would you rule out an allergy to EO or carrier oil?

Some people suggested I was reacting to the EO but I don’t have the redness or itching that I assume you get with an allergy.

Try diluting it with a sterile oil

 

[one5onecc]

Try switching Esters.

Mostly try switching labs.
.You've ran 2 types of gear with no PIP (how were your gains, did you get bloods?)

Switch your lab, good gear does NOT cripple you.
Everyone kept saying DHB is crippling, got some stuff in MCT and felt great.

Stop putting yourself through hell, get qaulity gear.
Talk to your rep, tell them what's up.

.5ml in Pec should do FUCK all in terms of PIP.
chest can take some decent oil.

With good gear, I'll throw 1.5ml in the delt with no issues..... IF it's good gear.

Bad gear.... half s ML will fuck you up.

I’ve ran 3 labs with no pip yes.

Got bloods on only one of the labs (ARL Russia) test levels were out of range 5 days after injecting 125mg so the batch I got was legit despite the hate I saw them get here lol.

No idea if the other two labs were legit. But gains have been good considering the doses I’ve done. Usually played around between 150-350mg test but this is my first time going to 450mg so they should be even better.

I agree with you, good gear should be painless.

 

[little]

I’ve ran 3 labs with no pip yes.

Got bloods on only one of the labs (ARL Russia) test levels were out of range 5 days after injecting 125mg so the batch I got was legit despite the hate I saw them get here lol.

No idea if the other two labs were legit. But gains have been good considering the doses I’ve done. Usually played around between 150-350mg test but this is my first time going to 450mg so they should be even better.

I agree with you, good gear should be painless.

They probably just have a high ba content, unless you can think of what carrier oils you might be allergic to, med tech gears labz farma probably through grape seed oil and a ton of ba just to get it in solution quick and easy

but I don’t know

 

[Sworder]

They probably just have a high ba content, unless you can think of what carrier oils you might be allergic to, med tech gears labz farma probably through grape seed oil and a ton of ba just to get it in solution quick and easy

but I don’t know

Allergic to carrier oils? Jesus not another one of those idiots... Do you know what it is like to inject an oil that you are REALLY allergic to?..