Do you need BB if you use EO?

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

If you use full EO as your oil, do you need to use BB at all? Does BB hold better than EO does?

I'm having a hard time making 250mg/ml tren a. I might just accept the fact it crashes every 3 days or drop it to 200mg/ml but I still dream

 

[crtx]

250mg tren a? why?

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Why shouldn't matter.

But I like to have all my brews at 250 for consistency. And when you're adding multiple compounds, suddenly you have a full 1ml syringe full even though you are doing daily injections of a fairly mild cycle (stuff like mast, primo, test, which you might run higher doses of, or DHB which can only really be run at 100mg/ml due to PIP).

I mean I don't really want to fill a syringe full of 1ml of fluid either and have the plunger barely hanging on, maybe I only want to fill it 75% full. Yeah, I could use a 3ml syringe, but I'd rather not (plus you'd just be wasting a lot in the tip after each injection).

 

[crtx]

i mean if your wanting 250mg tren why not use tren e?

you know the amount of super solvents required to get it to hold if possible at 150mg + tren a? i couldn't imagine 250mg or 200mg.

why should it matter is whats the point loading your body up full of EO, GU if its not needed just to meet your required O.C.D of 1ml barrels?

Somethings aren't brewed at those numbers for a reason mate.

And dont say now you can't tolerate tren e. end of the same its tren.

You think tren a @ 250mg wont have pip lol. even had the cough @ 100mg?

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

I'd rather not have tren e running through my body for longer when I want it to stop or come on quicker, but I'll look into it as an alternative after I run out of this tren a I got. I've had a few tren cycles end because I was like "okay I need this to stop today

I have no allergy to EO so don't see any problem with using it. I've never used GU, but if I can hold why not. I've heard people say it's awful, and I've heard people say it's completely fine. So, I'm open to using it.

I've never had tren cough in years of using it, never had PIP with the tren a I've used. I've brewed up a big batch a while back using 1/20/MCT and never had PIP with it (it would just crash every ~4 days to which I'd just have to hot plate it, but I ended up ruining a vial or two doing that by leaving it on too long. or maybe they aren't ruined, they are just really dark now, at least they don't crash, haven't tried to use them, not much left in those vials anyways).

DHB can cause PIP (it's minor but just there). I had some test e 500mg/ml cause PIP that I had bought (raws were delayed, obviously I just ended up diluting it to 250mg/ml). Never had PIP from anything else.

 

[crtx]

gu stinks man like leather every jab you can taste it in your tongue and breathe its awfull stuff does it job in holding whacked out brews and oral pre workout type oils.

give it a go mate its all an experiement. Its no that EO is allergies i seen it ramp up CRP markers so internally inflamation of the body. I try to avoid eo, and gu were possible.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

yeah i guess I"ll just try to do 1/30/EO 200mg/ml tren and if it crashes every few days fuck it, just reheat it and this time i'll split it into more vials in case I ruin a vial by forgetting it on the hotplate too long.

I'm curious if using more, or less, BB would be better (which holds more, EO or BB? but i ask this in another thread...).

Meanwhile my trest 250mg/ml 1/20/EO has held up beautifully

 

[crtx]

well EO can be used as a carrier oil in replacement of MCT or GSO etc.. so your gonna need BB and very high 25%BB + 1-2%BA and rest EO then go from there. if you need more than 30%BB id look at introducing GU start 5% go from there reduce EO volume.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

maybe 1/30/EO with 200mg/ml tren then

 

[nightprowler7]

You can make 200 tren a with only 22bb in mct. Why would you need EO to go another 50mg? Try 25 bb

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Why do you say that? I can't really find any reports of people making high tren a.

I've made tren at 1/20BB/MCT at 250mg/ml in the past and it would crash every 3 days. My mix of 1/20/EO is also crashing.

And why not use EO, seems to just be a better carrier than mct as long as you aren't allergic.

I could try 1/30/EO, I presumed 1/20 EO would work. Do you think 1/30/E0 would hold 250?

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

I mean what if I did 40 or 50% bb?

 

[Deadp007]

...how much total tren a are you wanting to run per week?

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Under 300mg. Added with a few other compounds at mild dosages, it fills up a 1ml syringe with daily injectons. Mainly DHB which is limited to 100mg/ml. Even then I'd really prefer to just use 80% of a 1ml syringe rather than 100, so that's 150mg test a week, 250mg tren, and around 400mg of DHB filling up a 1ml syringe.

There's also other compounds I'd possibly want to add trest (to be crazy), primo (e2 management if needed), NPP (joint relief), mast (mast just is dosed high) which would fill up a barrel fast even at 250mg/ml. Maybe even extra oil just to cut the DHB.

I also just would prefer if all my compounds were 250mg/ml so I don't get it mixed up what is dosed at what.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

You can make 200 tren a with only 22bb in mct. Why would you need EO to go another 50mg? Try 25 bb

No BA needed, since it evaporates so quickly……right?

 

[readalot]

No BA needed, since it evaporates so quickly……right?

Oh come now. Let's all be more kind/loving/understanding to each other. We are all coming at this from different places. I sure do appreciate the folks who have reached out via PM to share a kind word. I will try harder to foster a more supportive community moving forward.

Let's do it folks!

 

[GreenAmine]

And dont say now you can't tolerate tren e. end of the same its tren.

The base hormone is the same, but the attached esters impart different effects in the body. The ester changes the pharmacokinetics of the drug, which changes the pharmacodynamics. Tren a and tren e are not the same drug, nor is tren hex.

This is why some guys like NPP but not deca, and vice versa. Another example is that some guys experience high estrogen side effects on test u but not test cyp.

You wouldn't say that dbol and EQ are the same drug, right? The base hormone is the same.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

I think I'm just gonna try 1/40BB/EO and see if that holds.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

I think I'm just gonna try 1/40BB/EO and see if that holds.

But why? You can do this and it will work most likely. You should t need that much BB since your using EO. Thays the reason for using EO ..it's stronger solvent then BB..
I'm not a professional brewer .. I have decent experience with almost all the compounds but with in the standard dosing .. I would thin 2/20.. 2%ba/20%-30% eo will do the trick. I may be wrong but mixing a weaker solvent with a stronger solvent is counter productive.. stronger solvent would over ride the weaker one. I'm gonna do some reading and searching see if that's right.
Does that make sense anyone?
I personally recommend sticking to the tried and true 100mg/ml with good Ole 2/20.. after vigorous Steve's deep dive into solvents years ago and again recently I'm even more against super solvents.. plus nothing sucks more then wasting raws and materials on these experiments. I've done it in the past and it sucks.. big waste of filters and everything else.
I had a source few years ago who had so much experience and he would give me the recipe for certain ideas I had or he would say "nope not gonna work don't even try" lol.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

I'm using 1/20/EO and it's not holding well. Almost seems less stable than the time I brewed it at 1/20MCT.

You should t need that much BB since your using EO. Thays the reason for using EO ..it's stronger solvent then BB..

Is it? I thought it wasnt?

I'm okay with this because I know worst case scenario, I just have to throw the vial on a hotplate. I'm down to go to 200mg/ml if it'll hold but I have no interest in 100mg/ml.