Does my math seem right on this NPP brew?

[112yagosmi]

So I found post by another user who brewed NPP at 150mg/ml in MCT. I scaled down his recipe for my personal brew I want to make.


15g raws +1.5g for 10% overdose (16.5g total)

100ml total volume

2ml BA

20ml BB

MCT carrier



What do you think? This will make (10) 10ml vials at 150mg/ml

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Looks good to me. Most people dont go over 125mg/ml with the most common dose being 100mg/ml

 

[112yagosmi]

Looks good to me. Most people dont go over 125mg/ml with the most common dose being 100mg/ml

Yeah I know but I am going to be pinning so much oil this bulk that I wanted to try a decrease it a bit. I read a few posts about NPP holding fine at 150-170 with just 20%bb in mct. Since mct is a mild solvent as it is.

I figured I’d play it safe at 150mg ml

 

[All Nats McGee]

100mg/ml is the proper amount. Anything higher is stupid. That’s why it’s sold at 100mg/ml everywhere.

 

[theotherguy]

100mg/ml is the proper amount. Anything higher is stupid. That’s why it’s sold at 100mg/ml everywhere.

What makes it stupid?

 

[All Nats McGee]

What makes it stupid?

NPP is injected EOD to ED so you don’t need high concentrations with extra solvents in it.

 

[theotherguy]

NPP is injected EOD to ED so you don’t need high concentrations with extra solvents in it.

But if you want to run high doses and inject as little oil as possible, then I think higher doses are a good idea. I try to pin less than 1mL at a time so I can use insulin pins. I was able to run 600 NPP and still have room for my test and tren in my insulin syringe at 125 mg/mL. Easy pin right in the delt for 7 weeks straight.

So maybe it’s stupid to you, but I don’t agree with that sentiment. I brewed mine at 125 mg/mL, and I wish I would’ve done it at 150. NPP should hold at 150 just fine with no super solvents or extra solvent.

 

[All Nats McGee]

But if you want to run high doses and inject as little oil as possible, then I think higher doses are a good idea. I try to pin less than 1mL at a time so I can use insulin pins. I was able to run 600 NPP and still have room for my test and tren in my insulin syringe at 125 mg/mL. Easy pin right in the delt for 7 weeks straight.

So maybe it’s stupid to you, but I don’t agree with that sentiment. I brewed mine at 125 mg/mL, and I wish I would’ve done it at 150. NPP should hold at 150 just fine with no super solvents or extra solvent.

In your weird circumstances of wanting to be under 1ml of oil a day that works I guess. Oil doesn’t create pip. Why do you have to be under 1ml a day? Just use a 3cc barrel and lower concentration of gear with more oil and less solvents.

 

[theotherguy]

In your weird circumstances of wanting to be under 1ml of oil a day that works I guess. Oil doesn’t create pip. Why do you have to be under 1ml a day? Just use a 3cc barrel and lower concentration of gear with more oil and less solvents.

You can write off my reason as weird or stupid or whatever all you want, but just because someone has a differing opinion/preferred approach than you do, doesn’t necessarily make it stupid. It’s called personal preference. I choose to be under 1 mL when possible because it allows me to use an insulin syringe which has 2 benefits: 1) a smaller gauge needle so I’m not creating a bunch of scar tissue, and 2) less oil loss from dead space.

I never mentioned PIP. I also like to pin frequently to help mitigate sides caused by larger swings in blood concentration, and when pinning daily like I tend to on cycle for 7-10 weeks, using a slin pin is much easier.

 

[All Nats McGee]

You can write off my reason as weird or stupid or whatever all you want, but just because someone has a differing opinion/preferred approach than you do, doesn’t necessarily make it stupid. It’s called personal preference. I choose to be under 1 mL when possible because it allows me to use an insulin syringe which has 2 benefits: 1) a smaller gauge needle so I’m not creating a bunch of scar tissue, and 2) less oil loss from dead space.

I never mentioned PIP. I also like to pin frequently to help mitigate sides caused by larger swings in blood concentration, and when pinning daily like I tend to on cycle for 7-10 weeks, using a slin pin is much easier.

Scar tissue? I bet my 25g BD precision glide needles are just as smooth as your cheap Walmart insulin pins. Try them I promise you won’t go back. Or just keep pinning ED while having to brew higher concentration gear to fit in your cheap insulin pins. That also take 2.5 years to push the gear out.

You know using tren lowers your IQ?

 

[theotherguy]

Scar tissue? I bet my 25g BD precision glide needles are just as smooth as your cheap Walmart insulin pins. Try them I promise you won’t go back. Or just keep pinning ED while having to brew higher concentration gear to fit in your cheap insulin pins. That also take 2.5 years to push the gear out.

You know using tren lowers your IQ?

Wait… are you seriously getting butthurt because I don’t think concentrations of NPP over 100 mg/mL are stupid. That’s some ego you’ve got there bud.

 

[All Nats McGee]

Wait… are you seriously getting butthurt because I don’t think concentrations of NPP over 100 mg/mL are stupid. That’s some ego you’ve got there bud.

No I’m not getting butthurt you just need to drop the tren and use your brain.

 

[theotherguy]

No I’m not getting butthurt you just need to drop the tren and use your brain.

I’m not using my brain because I don’t think higher dose NPP than you’re comfortable with is stupid? Is that right?

 

[112yagosmi]

Just an update- it has held fine in 66F at 150mg/ml.

 

[theotherguy]

I’m glad you followed through with this, despite the stupid back and forth in your thread. My next NPP brew will also be at 150, or higher if I can push it higher without using super solvents

 

[112yagosmi]

I’m glad you followed through with this, despite the stupid back and forth in your thread. My next NPP brew will also be at 150, or higher if I can push it higher without using super solvents

Id recommend you make sure your NPP raws are a fine powder before you brew because mine came clumpy and it took awhile to dissolve because of the clumps of powder from tje shipping method. But it holds perfectly, never fell out of suspension. Even in my ice cold closet. I brewed at 10% OD of 150mg/ml btw.

Hope your brew comes out good too!

 

[theotherguy]

Id recommend you make sure your NPP raws are a fine powder before you brew because mine came clumpy and it took awhile to dissolve because of the clumps of powder from tje shipping method. But it holds perfectly, never fell out of suspension. Even in my ice cold closet. I brewed at 10% OD of 150mg/ml btw.

Hope your brew comes out good too!

Thanks! yea I am not worried about clumpiness as much as just making sure it holds. Last time I brewed deca, it was 100g and it was one big friggin clump where it had melted and hardened. I have a heated hot plate so it's not terrible for me to get it to dissolve, though it certainly takes longer

 

[Jaxino]

I made NPP at 150mg/ml. At 200 you need supersolvents which for me is a nono.

2% ba 20% bb in MCT oil no pip smooth.

It holds no problem.

 

[theotherguy]

I made NPP at 150mg/ml. At 200 you need supersolvents which for me is a nono.

2% ba 20% bb in MCT oil no pip smooth.

It holds no problem.

Thanks for the insight.

I don’t wanna use anything other than BA/BB. I’m still gonna experiment and see if I can make it work. I’ll go as high as 22% BB, but not more than that on NPP to see how high I can get it to hold.

I will say that I’ve had raws from different manufacturers that seem to hold at different levels. I’m not sure if that’s inconsistency in my brewing skills or a difference in raws quality though.

 

[Jaxino]

Thanks for the insight.

I don’t wanna use anything other than BA/BB. I’m still gonna experiment and see if I can make it work. I’ll go as high as 22% BB, but not more than that on NPP to see how high I can get it to hold.

I will say that I’ve had raws from different manufacturers that seem to hold at different levels. I’m not sure if that’s inconsistency in my brewing skills or a difference in raws quality though.

Remember to heat a tad over melting point and everything will be fine.

I homebrew everything with same recipe.
2% BA - 20% BB - MCT oil bought on Amazon, Now food imho Is best. I wish i can find mig840 in Europe!

Did Inj SD 30mg/ml, Npp 150, EQ 500, DHB 100, PrimoE 200, basically everything....
I don't use long ester nandrolone, but long esters in general are easier to make....

You need to check oil mix temperature, which is number one. If you want heat the oil faster, heat it on your stove, keep a thermometer inside then you mix it with solvents and powders and keep stirring.