Does Testogel suppress natural test?

[merkav]

Good evening everyone,

I hope you are having a great week. While I begin my research work I wanted to raise a question here that I find more than interesting.

The question is clear and I will tell you a little about my “movie”.

The first time I saw that “testogel” was “prescribed” for a post-cycle I thought it was “absurd”, but I have seen it more and more frequently not only in “well-known” trainers, but also when in the social security system itself acquaintances with low testosterone have been prescribed testogel and from hearsay, some say that it does not suppress the axis, but rather that it gives it support without leaving LH and FSH, but it is hearsay and I do not take anything for granted.

I would like to know if you are aware, from experience, of any study or any “weighty” argument, whether this is so or not…

Ideally, we should take a natural subject, expose it through analysis and check… although the exposure time and everything related to individualization would have to be determined…

Not to ramble on, but to give a bit of history to the thread, I hope for your experience and the light you can shed on the subject.

I have a friend who makes it himself and after having tried it, with all that has been said above, it seems more than interesting to me if we really confirm that it does not suppress the axis, logically in a minimal amount.

It is a subject with many nuances, that is clear. We are talking about a dosage, if I am not mistaken, “minimum” which is usually prescribed at 50mg a day. An acquaintance even with 25mg a day, comments that he has noticed quite a few benefits. We are talking about a strong boy, who has used the most is 20mg of oxa a day

Regards and thanks.

 

[UncleBuns]

I'm guessing English is not your first language. This isn't an insult, I just find that your post is difficult to understand.

Testosterone is highly suppressive. It doesn't matter how you are getting it in your body, it is suppressive. Taking such a low dose that is not suppressing you then you are unlikely to get any noticable benefit from that dosage. Any dose of testosterone that gives you a noticeable effect will suppress you. There's no way around this.

If your friend is using the gel and claims to have benefits either his natural production is being suppressed or it is a placebo effect and he is taking such a low amount that it is actually not doing anything.

 

[merkav]

I'm guessing English is not your first language. This isn't an insult, I just find that your post is difficult to understand.

Testosterone is highly suppressive. It doesn't matter how you are getting it in your body, it is suppressive. Taking such a low dose that is not suppressing you then you are unlikely to get any noticable benefit from that dosage. Any dose of testosterone that gives you a noticeable effect will suppress you. There's no way around this.

If your friend is using the gel and claims to have benefits either his natural production is being suppressed or it is a placebo effect and he is taking such a low amount that it is actually not doing anything.

You are right, my native language is Spanish and I use a translator. Thank you for your understanding.

I think exactly the same as you, but I have read in several sources that Testogel is being used for PTC and people claim that at a "minimal" dose, there can be "support" to the natural axis.

The question was to know your experiences or if you knew of any scientific literature that supports this "theory"

 

[readalot]

Look up Natesto and all the literature. Not going to post it all here. Long story short the pituitary is very sensitive to the pulsatile nature of feedback from T and E2. Hence you can pulse Test base and minimize negative feedback on HPTA.

 

[readalot]

What the hell. You made a new member intro.

Doing TRT while Maintaining/Recovering HPTA & Fertility

We’ve discussed this off and on but I wanted to share this study which would be applicable for men who want to (1) do TRT while preserving fertility OR (2) have done TRT and want to try and recover their HPTA/fertility while maintaining reasonable Test levels. Converting Men From Clomiphene...

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Help/Advice Interpreting My Labs? Fertility After Blast/Cruise

Sure. Just for fun…these folks really exceeded expectations on their study: Although this study really belongs over in the TRT forum given the range on the dose response curve: In summary, pulsatile T is less effective as a negative-feedback signal on LH secretion than continuous T...

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TRT - Change from Twice Weekly to Three/Week

FIGURE 1 | Percent change in mean gonadotropin levels (LH & FSH), from baseline through 6 months of testosterone treatment. Nasal testosterone (blue), dosed t.i.d., adapted from (15), n = 33. Topical testosterone (orange), dosed daily, adapted from (9), n = 123. IM injectable - 100 mg...

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https://academic.oup.com/jes/article/3/1/235/5198611

See all the info at ExcelMale as well. Huge amount of material. Happy reading.

Etc, etc, etc.

 

[merkav]

What the hell. You made a new member intro.

Doing TRT while Maintaining/Recovering HPTA & Fertility

We’ve discussed this off and on but I wanted to share this study which would be applicable for men who want to (1) do TRT while preserving fertility OR (2) have done TRT and want to try and recover their HPTA/fertility while maintaining reasonable Test levels. Converting Men From Clomiphene...

t-nation.com

Help/Advice Interpreting My Labs? Fertility After Blast/Cruise

Sure. Just for fun…these folks really exceeded expectations on their study: Although this study really belongs over in the TRT forum given the range on the dose response curve: In summary, pulsatile T is less effective as a negative-feedback signal on LH secretion than continuous T...

t-nation.com

TRT - Change from Twice Weekly to Three/Week

FIGURE 1 | Percent change in mean gonadotropin levels (LH & FSH), from baseline through 6 months of testosterone treatment. Nasal testosterone (blue), dosed t.i.d., adapted from (15), n = 33. Topical testosterone (orange), dosed daily, adapted from (9), n = 123. IM injectable - 100 mg...

t-nation.com

https://academic.oup.com/jes/article/3/1/235/5198611

See all the info at ExcelMale as well. Huge amount of material. Happy reading.

Etc, etc, etc.

I greatly appreciate your time in providing the information.

Thank you very much, I will read it with great pleasure.

 

[BigDadd7]

Si

 

[NewGuy756]

yes

 

[petit_rafalet]

You are right, my native language is Spanish and I use a translator. Thank you for your understanding.

I think exactly the same as you, but I have read in several sources that Testogel is being used for PTC and people claim that at a "minimal" dose, there can be "support" to the natural axis.

The question was to know your experiences or if you knew of any scientific literature that supports this "theory"

I know the PCT method that you mention with testogel, it’s called PCTren , nothing to do with trenbolone, it’s just the name of this kind of post cycle therapy.
It consists in a daily low dose of testogel like 25 to 50mg and 250 to 500 iu HCG 3x per week during a very very long period (don’t remember well but more than 12 weeks, depending on test levels in blood).
This allows enough time to clear the gear from your body while maintaining stable testo levels.
Sorry if I can’t explain more details, you can search in the internet the name is PCTren from the Academia Tren (Carlos Mejias)

 

[merkav]

I know the PCT method that you mention with testogel, it’s called PCTren , nothing to do with trenbolone, it’s just the name of this kind of post cycle therapy.
It consists in a daily low dose of testogel like 25 to 50mg and 250 to 500 iu HCG 3x per week during a very very long period (don’t remember well but more than 12 weeks, depending on test levels in blood).
This allows enough time to clear the gear from your body while maintaining stable testo levels.
Sorry if I can’t explain more details, you can search in the internet the name is PCTren from the Academia Tren (Carlos Mejias)

Thanks for the information. Carlos is a man of Spain and surely he is the one from whom I have read that type of protocol

 

[petit_rafalet]

By the way, if someone needs a good testogel I can recommend you Daisanlabs . I have very good experience with them. The delivery from the EU, the quality of the product is good (own formula I guess)