Doms training frequency n steroids

[Hardbody 59901]

im doing 300 test cup , 200 deca, 50 mg anabar day. My question is training frequency and recovery. This is my first cycle. I always based training frequency on doms. I don’t train sore muscles figuring they still need time to recuperate.

Holy shit I gotta kill each muscle group to get even minor stiffness. And now after 24/36 hours they are fully recovered. So am I right to assume I can now optimally train each muscle group three times a week,6 days, and take one day off to restrict carbs and do cardio.

I trained for more than 15 years natural and could bench 425 and squat for reps 405. So I know how to train, at least naturally.

Thoughts?

 

[Hardbody 59901]

Also, I take 1.5 gh/day.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I don't think a routine should ever be altered because of DOMS. If your program or coach says do "x" on this day and "y" on that day that's what you should do in my opinion. With higher frequency you should have less DOMS anyway.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

That's essentially what AAS do. Given that your nutrition and sleep are both in order, they help decrease the time it takes you to recover, allowing you to train more frequently.

IMO, i would start at 2x/wk and see how you feel. If all systems are go, give 3x/wk a shot.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

DOMS is a bad indicator of appropriate volume/intensity/recovery for both natural and enhanced athletes.

But that’s why we use em; recovery.

 

[jJjburton]

Yes I do each muscle 2x a week. The way I do it gives 2 days of rest between each muscle. Back/Shoulders, Chest/Biceps,Legs. Never taking a day off. I will also somtimes hit the gym 2x a day, if I am feeling good. Doing Back/Glutes day then shoulders night, Chest/arms day then abs/calves night, Quads/Shoulders day then back at night. I do the first part in begginning of cycle, then second part second half of cycle when everything is full blast. I have been seeing great results. No soreness. But you must eat more since you're buring more. And each workout is 1 hr long.

 

[cfreetenor]

DOMS is kindof a weird thing. It just kindof sucks when doing moderate physical labor. I notice that DOMS can affect aerobic training and technically demanding explosive lifts, ie Olympic lifting. Or there is correlation for me with DOMS and poor performance here.

But even without AAS like me, squatting two days before squatting heavy again will affect me less (if at all) in making the lift than simply standing for a few hours. I get much more DOMS doing single joint movements than compounds as well. I am relatively certain that it indicates an anabolic environment in your muscles and the possibility of favorable nutrition partitioning in the tissue - I may be wrong. But if I’m not mistaken the sum total of my experience and research has lead me to believe that DOMS is more indicative and diagnostic of how I should be eating, not how I should be training.

 

[LeoTC]

Can't make a big enough case for active recovery here.

Keep blood moving through the muscle and DOMS aren't much more than an afterthought. Bodyweight work and a solid stretching routine are more than enough to wipe them out.

Started aggressively stretching to regain some mobility lost over the years and develope my side split. Combined with about 100 convict squats, push-ups, and bodyweight rows while at the office. Zero issues and they used to be fucking crippling.

 

[balco]

Fuck 425lbs bench is really great for a natural. The most I've seen in person natty is usually around 405lbs.