Doomsday Prepping

[goodfriendbob]

Kind of a random question but this shit has been keeping me up a lot at night lately. Given all the shit going on in the world these days I don't think its too far off to say there may be a collapse of some sort eventually. Those of you who are on TRT- what is your plan if this happens, and medications are no longer being sold. Or alternatively you are cut off from medications because you don't to take Covid booster # 532. For me, coming off would mean being extremely depressed and and anxious for at least 3 months, on top of being involved in an economic collapse. Is there any way to store testosterone for 50+ years? I contemplate trying to come off and just take clomid or something all the time for exactly this reason, but working the stressful and critical job that I do that's pretty difficult for me to do. Can't afford panic attacks where I work or people die. And 2 years in there is not guarantee my test is coming back.

 

[Demondosage]

You are thinking too much

 

[effiffoff]

"Is there any way to store testosterone for 50+ years?"
yeah man, its very likely you gonna live 50+ years from the start of a total collapse... Its very unlikely to happen but when it does your lifespan will not be even close to it.

Store some raws for 2-3 years advance and its enough.

 

[D Zero]

Storing long term is very possible.

If test is your worry you order T-Ace, put it in vacuum sealed bags and then heat seal it in 7mil mylar bags X 2 and keep in a dry environment at temps not higher than 70 degrees.

Long term storage is best with short esters as there's less chance of it degrading. You'll never be able to store Test E, D or U for long term. Test Base, Ace, Prop, PP and Cyp can all store with their high melting points and still be usable for decades.

For my doomsday pack I keep about 500 T-Ace, 200 T-base, 300 T-Cyp. That should be enough to last me until I die. If you run out of needles you dissolve it in oil and drink the shit if you have to.

For those of us with nuts that no longer work we have to be prepared.

Although I hope in the future once the senile old fools that run this country are all dead and gone the drug war comes to an end and we don't have to deal with this bs anymore.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

You are thinking too much

 

[adamcarpenter]

Is there any difference storing long term as far as oils vs raws?

 

[effiffoff]

Is there any difference storing long term as far as oils vs raws?

Definitely. Oils have way shorter shelf life. GSO according to some sources can be good up to 1-2 years max.Some raws stored properly will be good for decades. But its always a risk to store kilos of raws.

 

[MFAAS]

Storing long term is very possible.

If test is your worry you order T-Ace, put it in vacuum sealed bags and then heat seal it in 7mil mylar bags X 2 and keep in a dry environment at temps not higher than 70 degrees.

Long term storage is best with short esters as there's less chance of it degrading. You'll never be able to store Test E, D or U for long term. Test Base, Ace, Prop, PP and Cyp can all store with their high melting points and still be usable for decades.

For my doomsday pack I keep about 500 T-Ace, 200 T-base, 300 T-Cyp. That should be enough to last me until I die. If you run out of needles you dissolve it in oil and drink the shit if you have to.

For those of us with nuts that no longer work we have to be prepared.

Although I hope in the future once the senile old fools that run this country are all dead and gone the drug war comes to an end and we don't have to deal with this bs anymore.

Why all the different esters?

Why Test Ace? The half life is almost the same as test prop, which is probably easier to get--at least in most countries. Idk where you're from and you don't need to share.

To me during doomsday scenario, Test U would shine the brightest. Yes, it can degrade faster, but storing it in a cool cellar in a dry pack or even a vacuum sealed container should do the trick, right?

The bottleneck here would be access to clean and sharp needles. I would stop cycling altogether and just get on a Test U maintenance schedule of ~125 mg per week because then I would not need any AI. Might as well just accept that your balls will shrink to the size of peas since you won't have access to HCG, and if you do I doubt you'll have a refrigerator.

But really, Test U seems like the best route during a doomsday scenario. But really I would say the best thing to do for this issue is to have plenty of PCT drugs available.

The MAIN issue though isn't TRT at all. It is where the fuck are you going to bug out to? Or do you live somewhere that you can bug in? Do you have a stable fresh water supply? If you have a well, is the well pump electric off the grid? Look into solar panels. Hell, look into solar panels for your whole house.

Basically, if you really wanna survive, become a homesteader. Join communities for prepping and survival. Have a garden and a personal seed bank.

Keep in mind that even if you have a bunch of raws, you can't brew without heat and filters and materials. You'd better be fucking STOCKED UP on EVERYTHING if you want it to last.

 

[D Zero]

Why all the different esters?

Why Test Ace? The half life is almost the same as test prop, which is probably easier to get--at least in most countries. Idk where you're from and you don't need to share.

To me during doomsday scenario, Test U would shine the brightest. Yes, it can degrade faster, but storing it in a cool cellar in a dry pack or even a vacuum sealed container should do the trick, right?

The bottleneck here would be access to clean and sharp needles. I would stop cycling altogether and just get on a Test U maintenance schedule of ~125 mg per week because then I would not need any AI. Might as well just accept that your balls will shrink to the size of peas since you won't have access to HCG, and if you do I doubt you'll have a refrigerator.

But really, Test U seems like the best route during a doomsday scenario. But really I would say the best thing to do for this issue is to have plenty of PCT drugs available.

The MAIN issue though isn't TRT at all. It is where the fuck are you going to bug out to? Or do you live somewhere that you can bug in? Do you have a stable fresh water supply? If you have a well, is the well pump electric off the grid? Look into solar panels. Hell, look into solar panels for your whole house.

Basically, if you really wanna survive, become a homesteader. Join communities for prepping and survival. Have a garden and a personal seed bank.

Keep in mind that even if you have a bunch of raws, you can't brew without heat and filters and materials. You'd better be fucking STOCKED UP on EVERYTHING if you want it to last.

The point isn't a doomsday, but a supply problem where our government goes balls out on the drug war and even bans testosterone for anyone that isn't transgender.

Test Ace is easy to order, I mean right now PPL has almost 100 kilos available for sale.

Short esters have higher molecular strength bonds, with no ester being the best with its high melting point (309 F) and no weak bonds from an added ester. Test ace melts at 289 F. U melts at around 140-150 F I believe.

The reason test ace is because it has a higher melting point, shorter ester and it has zero pip and the body doesn't reject it in some with flu like symptoms.

Needles are a problem, but not for me I think I have well over a 1000 insulin syringes packed in two layers of 7 mil mylar vacuum sealed bags with dehydrated silicon to keep them dry.

I don't screw around just because our government can go two ways, either we drop the drug war(looking less and less likely), or our legislators make it harder and harder to get supplies adding more and more laws and regulations. I would think future generations would want to discontinue the drug war, but we have to keep in mind these old fucks running the show right now are gate keepers and only the biggest douchiest loathsome slimiest nastiest self-interested fucks will be allowed to sit in positions of power as they are trained to take the reins of power from these old sadistic asswipes currently in power on how best to torture, abuse and even kill our citizens that dare to thirst for freedom.

 

[MFAAS]

The point isn't a doomsday, but a supply problem where our government goes balls out on the drug war and even bans testosterone for anyone that isn't transgender.

Test Ace is easy to order, I mean right now PPL has almost 100 kilos available for sale.

Short esters have higher molecular strength bonds, with no ester being the best with its high melting point (309 F) and no weak bonds from an added ester. Test ace melts at 289 F. U melts at around 140-150 F I believe.

The reason test ace is because it has a higher melting point, shorter ester and it has zero pip and the body doesn't reject it in some with flu like symptoms.

Needles are a problem, but not for me I think I have well over a 1000 insulin syringes packed in two layers of 7 mil mylar vacuum sealed bags with dehydrated silicon to keep them dry.

I don't screw around just because our government can go two ways, either we drop the drug war(looking less and less likely), or our legislators make it harder and harder to get supplies adding more and more laws and regulations. I would think future generations would want to discontinue the drug war, but we have to keep in mind these old fucks running the show right now are gate keepers and only the biggest douchiest loathsome slimiest nastiest self-interested fucks will be allowed to sit in positions of power as they are trained to take the reins of power from these old sadistic asswipes currently in power on how best to torture, abuse and

Lets say you have 2000 pins stocked up...test ace needs to be injected every 2 days? 1 day? Either way, that is only a couple years worth of pins, so someday you will run out and have to PCT anyway regardless of how much raws you have, right?

 

[D Zero]

Acetate as far as blood work isn't the main point. You're looking at every 5 days for acetate and you could go longer if you needed. Keep in mind that acetate is 86% testosterone, Undecanoate is 60% test by volume. If you want a good ester that will store well I'd just stick with Cyp at 200 F melting point and 72% T by volume.

I've done straight ace before and even if the blood levels are low you have the test in your cells working on the androgen receptors and CNS. Blood levels don't tell whole story of what is happening in your body. Free Test while very important can be low for extended periods between shots and you'll still be fine if you were in a survival mode.

As for PCT that's irrelevant in my case I've been continuously shut down without a break for more than 15 years, my Total T 15 years ago was 230 and now my nuts aren't gonna work. I tried to PCT one time a few years back and made it 3 months, couldn't take it, my T was around 10 and I felt like an old man. At 9 months PCT or no PCT you will arrive at your eventual natural T levels, in my case the T of a middle aged women.