ECA Stack

[ryanmo123]

Okay, ECA stack:
Ephedra
Caffeine
Aspirin

Right??

The ephedra was made illegal before I was old enough to use it, but from what I understand it was one kick-ass supp. for boosting energy levels, so I can understand its place in the stack. The caffeine also helps energy levels and metabolism so I get that. I am actually using Xenadrine EFX right now which uses caffeine mainly to help cut and it seems to be working well as a metabolic enhancer and VERY well as a thermogenic due to other shit in it, (I've been sweatin' my ass off lately). However; I don't get the aspirin. Why is this part of the stack that is supposed to encourage rapid fat loss w/o loss of lean muscle mass? And would it be helpful to combine that with the Xenadrine? Why or why not?

Also, what other supps. could I pair with the EFX to help out my cut? Besides ephedra since I'm not looking for a crim record (yet), I was thinkin along the lines of a guggulsterone supplement like Syntrax's Guggulbolic Extreme. There's alotta interesting research supporting gugg.strs. latelty and I am thinkin it would work nicely combined with the EFX. Know of anything else that could help the practically keto diet and added cardio I'm doing already?

 

[ryanmo123]

Should I add a little 7-keto DHEA perhaps? Just to increase thermogenesis even more?



RYAN

 

[ryanmo123]

The asprin was supposedly to help even out blood levels of EC throughout the day, making it more effective.

Let me be blunt - this is stupid.QUOTE]


Yea, that's what I figured. It didn't make much sense to me. I'm still wondering if anyone out there's found any decent supps for cutting besides ephedra. I'm thinking of using Caffeine and 7-keto DHEA, heard its supposed to be a good thermogenic and I'm j/w if anyone's found any good brands of it? Or if anyone knows how much to take with how much caffeine? etc.

 

[that]

Just spend $25 bro and get a bottle of the xenadrine remake off superior1.

 

[roofer]

The asprin was supposedly to help even out blood levels of EC throughout the day, making it more effective.

Let me be blunt - this is stupid.QUOTE]


Yea, that's what I figured. It didn't make much sense to me. I'm still wondering if anyone out there's found any decent supps for cutting besides ephedra. I'm thinking of using Caffeine and 7-keto DHEA, heard its supposed to be a good thermogenic and I'm j/w if anyone's found any good brands of it? Or if anyone knows how much to take with how much caffeine? etc.

ive never used it but have been told 7 keto is garbage personally i dont know. start using green tea extract, acetal l-carnitine, caffiene, one to two gallons of cold water.(cold water has a positive effect on metabolism because the body has to warm it. capsicum (what makes peppers hot) increases metabolism and of course cardio. theres many things that will help lose weight just be leary of certain supps because alot are worthless.

 

[ImaBldr]

You can still get ephedrine legally from a store: look for over the counter asthma medicines and you'll find it. As I recall, some of the generic or store brands had a good amount of ephedrine in them; couple those with the new, "clean" diet pills (trimspa, xenidrine, stacker, etc.) and you should have a pretty powerful combo. Use regular eca numbers as a guideline and build to what your body can handle.

 

[Instock]

The asprin was supposedly to help even out blood levels of EC throughout the day, making it more effective.

Let me be blunt - this is stupid.

The way to do it would be to divide up the doses of the EC. EC works great, and asprin is NOT something to be taken regularly. It causes problems and it's stupid to use it, IMO. Just plain ephedra and caffeine works great on their own.

You need to do a search on ECA stack. That is not the reason for using asprin in the mix. Its much more than that. I can't remember, but its use has nothing to do with its thinning properties, but with its prosganglin (spelled wrong) blocking ability.

 

[ryanmo123]

You can still get ephedrine legally from a store: look for over the counter asthma medicines and you'll find it. As I recall, some of the generic or store brands had a good amount of ephedrine in them; couple those with the new, "clean" diet pills (trimspa, xenidrine, stacker, etc.) and you should have a pretty powerful combo. Use regular eca numbers as a guideline and build to what your body can handle.

What are regular ECA numbers anyway?

 

[Turbo1]

Well just get some Ephedrine and Caffine pills. They are very cheap and readily availiable.

 

[Grizzly]

What he said. ^^^^

I don't know where you got the idea of a criminal record from, but you may want to check out dnepharm.com.

That's all I've got to say about that.

 

[kustomcreationz]

Well just get some Ephedrine and Caffine pills. They are very cheap and readily availiable.

Agreed. Don't forget the baby aspirins for proper platlet aggregation.

 

[ryanmo123]

Agreed. Don't forget the baby aspirins for proper platlet aggregation.

Yea see . . .that's what i was wondering before. I didn't know what the aspirin was for. Can you shed a lil' light on this topic for me? I don't really know exactly what platlet aggregation is?

Thanks,


Ryan

 

[kustomcreationz]

Yea see . . .that's what i was wondering before. I didn't know what the aspirin was for. Can you shed a lil' light on this topic for me? I don't really know exactly what platlet aggregation is?

Thanks,


Ryan

Thins your blood so the ECA can better work through your system.

 

[kustomcreationz]

Found this on another board on this topic...check it out:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46194&highlight=aspirin

I guess I was wrong.

As I was proven correct, it also isn't a good idea to take more than 250mg per dosing as it can thin the blood out too much causing CNS shock and horrid headaches.

 

[ryanmo123]

As I was proven correct, it also isn't a good idea to take more than 250mg per dosing as it can thin the blood out too much causing CNS shock and horrid headaches.

Okay, after checking out that link I get the purpose of Aspirin; but still don't see it as a big overall aid in fat loss so I think that I would too leave it out of the stack. It seems it may be a little too dangerous for something of such little importance to my goals with the stomach aches, headaches, and blood thinning.

My new question is what kind of ephedrine do you combine use in this stack? I'm pretty sure its the Ephedrine HCl right? Also, how many milligrams of ephedrine would you stack with how many mgs. of caffeine to have an effective fat loss stack for someone of let's say . . . . approx. 17% BF, 6'2", 215 lbs.?


Ryan


PS . . .my avatar is my goal, not my self. LOL

 

[kustomcreationz]

Okay, after checking out that link I get the purpose of Aspirin; but still don't see it as a big overall aid in fat loss so I think that I would too leave it out of the stack. It seems it may be a little too dangerous for something of such little importance to my goals with the stomach aches, headaches, and blood thinning.

My new question is what kind of ephedrine do you combine use in this stack? I'm pretty sure its the Ephedrine HCl right? Also, how many milligrams of ephedrine would you stack with how many mgs. of caffeine to have an effective fat loss stack for someone of let's say . . . . approx. 17% BF, 6'2", 215 lbs.?


Ryan


PS . . .my avatar is my goal, not my self. LOL

25mg ephedrine hcl/200mg caffeine/81mg aspirin 3x daily. Your right that aspirin doesn't burn fat, but it does help make the ephedrine and caffeine better readily used in the body and it also stops your beta-receptors from being down regulated as fast too which can make your ECA effective longer.