Education on esters

swole4ever

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There was this guy that I used to speak with that I unfortunately lost touch with. His knowledge of esters and how this stuff works was amazing. He could tell you how much ester was in every shot. Also how to go from one ester to the next without your body missing a beat.

Is there any information out there that I can read to learn this type of stuff. I really want to learn the workings of this. Its bad enough when you speak to these doctors, they know nothing about anabolics but they want to spit all this nonsense out. Whenever I confront them about how anabolics work and what it does they then back down.

I have already been on 4 cycles but I have yet to learn what works for me and in what dosages.

TIA
 
Code:
http://www.amazon.com/Anabolics-E-Book-Edition-William-Llewellyn-ebook/dp/B005II5Z7M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390793979&sr=8-1&keywords=Anabolics

That right there is worth it's weight in gold.

Appreciate it. I think I may be able to find the pdf somewhere. I know back in the day it was Dan Duchaine.
 
There are some dodgy 10th edition copies with pages missing, just the updates or something, that's what I see floating around. If you like the book, $9.99 is a steal and Llewellyn is a great guy! Money couldn't be sent to a better person.
 
I like this one;

Arguably the most complete guide to testosterone and the male body.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Mans-Guide--Second-Edition/dp/0966223128/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387400574&sr=8-1&keywords=nelson+vergel]Testosterone: A Man's Guide- Second Edition: Nelson Vergel: 8582093077777: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]
 
Also, here's a fairly comprehensive list of esters and their associated weights.

Oral Drug Active half-life

Anadrol /Anapolan50 (Oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (Oxandrolone ) 9 hours
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone , Methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Winstrol (stanozolol ) (tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours
*Turinabol (T-Bol) 7 hours ORAL

*16 Hours IV http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

Depot Drug Active half-life

Deca -durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 10.5 days
Equipoise 8 days
Finaject (Trenbolone acetate) 1.5 days
Primobolan (Methenolone enanthate ) 5-7 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 9 days
Testosterone Cypionate 7-9 days
Testosterone Enanthate 5-7 days
Testosterone Propionate 2 days
Testosterone Suspension Less than 1 day
Masteron (Drostanolone Propionate ) 2 days
Masteron Enanthate 8 days
Winstrol (Stanozolol ) 1 day

*Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG ) 23hr terminal half life but peak concentrations can remain for 36hrs.

Active Ester

Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 3 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 14 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 18 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 21 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

Esters Weights - Actual mg/100mg dose

Test Base 100
Tren Acetate 87
Test Prop 83
Test Enanth 72
Test Cyp 70
Test Undecan 63
Nand Phenyl 67
Nand Deca 64

Ancillaries Drug Active half-life

Aromasin (Exemestane) 10 hours
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
T3 2.5 days

Active Life versus Half Life

The confusion comes from the 2 terms being used synonymously when they should not be. Half-life is not a reference for the total time a drug will be found active in the body. It may take several half-lives before the drug is completely inactive.

Half-life: The period of time required for the concentration or amount of drug in the body to be reduced to exactly one-half of a given concentration or amount.

Example: The half-life of Anavar is 9 hours+/- (9 hours after oral administration of 50 mg of Anavar, 25mg is still present in the body).

Active life: Refers to the period in which the amount of a drug in the body is enough that it will still produce the desired effects for which it was administered. Or conversely, inhibit natural recovery of normal bodily function. It is dose dependent.

Example: The active life of 1,000mg of testosterone decanoate would be more than one month. At day 30 after injection, 250mg or more of this drug would still be present in the body.
 
Here is more of the weight of the esters per 100mg.

Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg
Boldenone base: 100mg
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Boldenone Propionate : 80mg
Boldenone Cypionate : 69mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg
Clostebol Base: 100mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84mg
Clostebol Enanthate : 72mg
Drostanolone Base: 100mg
Drostanolone Propionate: 80mg
Drostanolone Enanthate: 71mg
Methenolone Base: 100mg
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg
Nandrolone Base: 100mg
Nandrolone Cypionate: 69mg
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 63mg
Nandrolone Decanoate: 62mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Nandrolone Laurate: 56mg
Stenbolone Base: 100mg
Stenbolone Acetate: 84mg
Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg
 
Damn you guys are awesome. You definitely didnt give me a fish, you actually taught me how to fish.

I didn't realize that the book posted was only $10, I thought it was a few hundred.

I like this board already....
 
I am actually trying to put together a spreadsheet of the stuff that I would like to use etc. This way I can look it up and see what works with what etc.

I still get confused on how guys put together cycles, I just ask most of the time for cycles and then do a bit of research oh what the cycle does. Got to start somewhere.
 
Most profiles here by Bill Roberts will give you a run down on compound synergy.

This:

Code:
http://steroidplot.com/

And this:

Code:
http://pct.befit4free.net/

Are both helpful tools for cycle planning. Neither is perfect, but both are convenient.
 
Damn you guys are awesome. You definitely didnt give me a fish, you actually taught me how to fish.

I didn't realize that the book posted was only $10, I thought it was a few hundred.

I like this board already....


Ebook is 9.99, hardcover and soft cover are at about 60 on amazon
 
There was this guy that I used to speak with that I unfortunately lost touch with. His knowledge of esters and how this stuff works was amazing. He could tell you how much ester was in every shot. Also how to go from one ester to the next without your body missing a beat.

Is there any information out there that I can read to learn this type of stuff. I really want to learn the workings of this. Its bad enough when you speak to these doctors, they know nothing about anabolics but they want to spit all this nonsense out. Whenever I confront them about how anabolics work and what it does they then back down.

I have already been on 4 cycles but I have yet to learn what works for me and in what dosages.

TIA
What exactly do you want to know? Do you really want to know about steroid esters? Or do you want to know as much as you can about how anabolic steroids work? Or do you just want to know how to use steroids? Or do you want to know just enough info so you can plan your next steroid cycle?

There are literally more than a thousand articles on this site that can answer those questions and more. Why not begin here:

Introduction to Anabolic Steroids

Steroid Cycle Planning

Inhibition and Recovery of Natural Testosterone Production

Steroid Profiles
 
Appreciate it. I think I may be able to find the pdf somewhere. I know back in the day it was Dan Duchaine.

There are some dodgy 10th edition copies with pages missing, just the updates or something, that's what I see floating around. If you like the book, $9.99 is a steal and Llewellyn is a great guy! Money couldn't be sent to a better person.
There are only a few people who are writing books about anabolic steroids for the community. Please just buy the (e)book and support them them rather than try to save $10 by downloading a pirated version. Too many people are willing to spend $1000s to enrich dubious UGL sources but unwilling to support those whose work actually helps bros use steroids more intelligently and more safely.

If you are going to spend that much money to use steroids, spend at least a few dollars investment on learning how to use them.
 
Listen to millard! Book is ten dollars and you will be using it as a reference for as long as your using gear. Its a great read and honestly I would have paid more for the knowledge you will acquire from reading it.
 

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