Endurance-stack (Sust/EQ/GW/Albuterol)

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Hello everyone! :-)

I having been doing a lot of weight training/bodybuilding in the past, but started to show more interest in endurance training one year ago. I do not compete - it's more of a hobby making me happy. I do triathlon, and have decided to step up my training few weeks ago in order to get ready for completing half an ironman in a decent amount of time (1.2 Mile Swim 56 Mile Bike 13.1 Mile Run).
This involves hours of long training sessions on a daily basis, and I have considered running a cycle helping me recover better etc. - I have run a few cycles in the past with great results, but it's 5 years ago, and they were focused on putting on some muscle and gain some strength which is quite different from what I would like to obtain from this cycle. Useful information about steroid -use for the aspect of endurance is quite hard to come by, but I have found two old interesting posts (Unfortunately I cannot get in touch with any of the posters) from two different boards, claiming the same:

" I'm an avid endurance athlete and coach. In fact, I just personally came off a cycle after finishing an Ironman triathlon (2.4 mi swim, 112 mi bike and 26.2 mi marathon). I highly recommend the following cycle: 125mg of Sus250 every week, 200mg EQ every week and 2iu HGH daily following a 5/2 cycle. I know this seems like nothing in the BB world but this is a very effective / popular cycle for endurance athletes.

In endurance athletes natural testostrone is always suppressed to some degree. The 1/2cc of Sus250 just ensures the T levels stay on the high side of normal. Anymore and you will either hold water or put on muscle that you don't need or both. The EQ increases RBC without the risks associated with EPO. The hgh helps a great deal with recovery from the enormous amounts of long slow training volume that must be done as well as helps to increase overall endurance."


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"..... I used 125mg Test stacked with 200mg EQ and 15IU's of HGH every week and finished an Ironman. This worked amazing for me. The EQ will boost your RBC without the dangers associated with EPO."

So I have considered running a low dose of 125mg Sustanon & 200mg Equipoise weekly for 16 weeks. I cannot afford the HGH at the moment, but have been looking a bit into GW-501516 and Albuterol. I am mainly interested in the endurance aspect of GW and the fat loss aspect of Albuterol (I am currently around 11% bodyfat), but I am insecure weather Albuterol will affect my endurance/VO2 Max, as a have read both positive and negative experiences on this?"


My questions goes like:

- How should a PCT look like for a 16-week cycle of 125mg Sust/200mg EQ look like (I would like to avoid any weight added from water)?
- Can I run Albuterol some of the weeks for reducing BF - How will it affect my endurance, and how should dose/length of cycle be like?
- I have considered running 10-20mg GW-501516 ED for 1-12 Weeks, mainly for endurance and fat loss - I am still a little concerned about the cancer studies though, even though I do know it was made on rats for a long period of time involving enormous amount of doses. What are your thoughts on this? Have you used it, and been checked for cancer afterwards? Would this be possible at the local doctor, meanwhile, or?
And do you run Tribulus for COX-2 inhibition when running GW?

Hope someone came through the wall of text - I know it's a huge read, but hopefully someone can help me out, with at least some of my questions! :-)
 
Hello everyone! :-)

I having been doing a lot of weight training/bodybuilding in the past, but started to show more interest in endurance training one year ago. I do not compete - it's more of a hobby making me happy. I do triathlon, and have decided to step up my training few weeks ago in order to get ready for completing half an ironman in a decent amount of time (1.2 Mile Swim 56 Mile Bike 13.1 Mile Run).
This involves hours of long training sessions on a daily basis, and I have considered running a cycle helping me recover better etc. - I have run a few cycles in the past with great results, but it's 5 years ago, and they were focused on putting on some muscle and gain some strength which is quite different from what I would like to obtain from this cycle. Useful information about steroid -use for the aspect of endurance is quite hard to come by, but I have found two old interesting posts (Unfortunately I cannot get in touch with any of the posters) from two different boards, claiming the same:

" I'm an avid endurance athlete and coach. In fact, I just personally came off a cycle after finishing an Ironman triathlon (2.4 mi swim, 112 mi bike and 26.2 mi marathon). I highly recommend the following cycle: 125mg of Sus250 every week, 200mg EQ every week and 2iu HGH daily following a 5/2 cycle. I know this seems like nothing in the BB world but this is a very effective / popular cycle for endurance athletes.

In endurance athletes natural testostrone is always suppressed to some degree. The 1/2cc of Sus250 just ensures the T levels stay on the high side of normal. Anymore and you will either hold water or put on muscle that you don't need or both. The EQ increases RBC without the risks associated with EPO. The hgh helps a great deal with recovery from the enormous amounts of long slow training volume that must be done as well as helps to increase overall endurance."


&

"..... I used 125mg Test stacked with 200mg EQ and 15IU's of HGH every week and finished an Ironman. This worked amazing for me. The EQ will boost your RBC without the dangers associated with EPO."

So I have considered running a low dose of 125mg Sustanon & 200mg Equipoise weekly for 16 weeks. I cannot afford the HGH at the moment, but have been looking a bit into GW-501516 and Albuterol. I am mainly interested in the endurance aspect of GW and the fat loss aspect of Albuterol (I am currently around 11% bodyfat), but I am insecure weather Albuterol will affect my endurance/VO2 Max, as a have read both positive and negative experiences on this?"


My questions goes like:

- How should a PCT look like for a 16-week cycle of 125mg Sust/200mg EQ look like (I would like to avoid any weight added from water)?
- Can I run Albuterol some of the weeks for reducing BF - How will it affect my endurance, and how should dose/length of cycle be like?
- I have considered running 10-20mg GW-501516 ED for 1-12 Weeks, mainly for endurance and fat loss - I am still a little concerned about the cancer studies though, even though I do know it was made on rats for a long period of time involving enormous amount of doses. What are your thoughts on this? Have you used it, and been checked for cancer afterwards? Would this be possible at the local doctor, meanwhile, or?
And do you run Tribulus for COX-2 inhibition when running GW?

Hope someone came through the wall of text - I know it's a huge read, but hopefully someone can help me out, with at least some of my questions! :-)

I've never used gw but the rest of the cycle looks good. i your case less is better, keeping androgen levels lower will decrease water retention. this is not what the vast majority of members on this board are here for.
the test and eq at these level will aid in recovery without a doubt without the sides you mention. You are definitely on the right track imo with the cycle you suggest running.
your pct would be the same as any other and that is to bring natural test back up to normal levels, use clomid and nolva.
good luck brother. i doesn't look to me like you need much advice with your level of knowledge. you already understand what you are doing.
do include hcg during your cycle to prevent testicular atrophy.
 
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Yeah, people running these kind of cycles are to rare to come by :-)
But glad to hear, that I seem to be on the right track! :-)
 
Fella your using Tribulus and GW for unrecognized indications the latter of which has been associated with the increased incidence of CA in RATS!

What does the latter mean, rest assured NO DRUG COMPANY will be conducting HUMAN TRIALS on GW!!!

Your risk VS your benefit, only YOU can make that decision.
 
Fella your using Tribulus and GW for unrecognized indications the latter of which has been associated with the increased incidence of CA in RATS!

What does the latter mean, rest assured NO DRUG COMPANY will be conducting HUMAN TRIALS on GW!!!

Your risk VS your benefit, only YOU can make that decision.

After I've been doing more reading about GW I've decided not to use it. Rather be patient and see if the future clarifies whether this drug is g2g :-)
 
Hey Forced! How did your cycle go?

I have also been researching a lot on stacks that triathletes will benefit from, but to no avail. I have been in triathlon for 4 years. I recently finished my first Ironman a few months ago.

I read from another forum that a Cyclist was able to benefit from an Hgh, test and deca stack. However, I did not get the dosage since it was posted several years ago.

I am currently on my first month of Hgh. 2ius 6/1. Im planning to start my first cycle of test enanthate next month 200 mg for 8-12 weeks and still contemplating whether I should also stack it with 200 mg of deca per week for my joints.
 
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